Roadside Memorials, Utah fight

[Cloud]

crosses are secular symbols? Of what, barbaric execution methods?

[Ibby]

HavenT you ever looked aT an alphabeT before?
They're jusT gianT T's!

[Clodfobble]

"t... t... time to leave?!"

[xoxoxoBruce]

I guess we'll have to take down all those cross looking street signs. Maybe write the street names on the vertical pole and just eliminate the cross bar.

[TheMercenary]

I have no problem with them. But I do think they should consider modifying the crosses for troppers who were shot or for people who had been killed because of someone elses bad deed and allow the offender to be hung on them until dead and allow their bodies to rot on the roadside for all to see. That would be cool.

[ZenGum]

Ahhh, a bit of old-fashioned crime deterrence eh?
I don't know if it really works, but I recall a story about a chap who was hanged (probably for piracy) and his body strung up somewhere in the Thames estuary. It was there so long it became a navigation point and was marked on maps.
Can anyone confirm, or provide details or corrections?

[Sundae]

I'll have a look, but they generally drowned pirates, by chaining them to the Wapping Steps. I seem to remember that they left them there for 3 tides, and if they survived that they were pardoned. Which is just black humour because the steps are fully submerged at each tide.

ETA I was a little off course:

Pirates and thieves also flourished. Pirates would ambush ships coming into the area and also steal outgoing cargoes. If you look opposite you can see the Captain Kidd pub, named after the famous pirate executed at Execution Dock in 1701. Execution Dock was located by the Thames near to this pub and dealt with convicted pirates for over 400 years. Pirates who operated on the seas and abroad would also be tried back in London.

The gallows were located by the Thames so that the tide could wash over the body three times. More notorious pirates, including Kidd, were left to hang in a gibbet, a type of metal cage, to deter other would be criminals.

And further:

Captain Kidd himself was a Scottish ship-owner in New York during the end of the 17th century. After spending some time as a privateer (hunting and capturing pirates) he turned to the trade himself. He was arrested and charged with piracy and executed in 1701 at Execution Dock, Wapping. During the execution the rope broke and he was hanged on the second attempt. Afterwards, his body was left until it had been washed by the traditional three tides. After tarring his corpse was taken to Tilbury Point on the Essex side of the Thames, and hung in chains as a deterrent to other pirates.

If a billboard was places at a prominent intersection stating that _____ number of officers have been killed/____ number of drivers have been killed by drivers that shot them/drunk drivers/drivers that ran red-lights I would have no issue with it.
In no way is stating that this is a breach of church and state an ad hominem argument, it is on topic and accurate.

Too bad it was incorrectly used... would have been funny then.
The signs and where they are place is a breach of church and state and he cannot understand that, both are accurate and logical.

[lookout123]

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as usual, you've missed it. thanks for playing Who Wants To Be Oblivious? /Regis Philbin/

I did not miss it, it was just incorrect and did not deserve anything else.

Now, for those who have the ability to stay on-topic.
Again, what is wrong with a cemetery? Is that not the appropriate place for mourning the dead if you feel you need a public place to do so?
Want to do more, buy time on television or a billboard.
Public land is not the place.

[lookout123]

QUICK! name 5 things that don't get your panties in a twist. we'll wait.

[Cloud]

Originally Posted by rkzenrage

Again, what is wrong with a cemetery? Is that not the appropriate place for mourning the dead if you feel you need a public place to do so?
Want to do more, buy time on television or a billboard.
Public land is not the place.

So, you're opposed to things like war memorials, say, the Vietnam Veteran's Memorial Wall?

Originally Posted by Cloud

So, you're opposed to things like war memorials, say, the Vietnam Veteran's Memorial Wall?

Not at all, same idea as buying a billboard or commercial, which I suggested earlier... as long as they are not religious in any way.

[classicman]

Originally Posted by rkzenrage

Not at all, same idea as buying a billboard or commercial, which I suggested earlier... as long as they are not religious in any way.

Why can't they be religious? Over 85% of this country believes in some form of religion. Just because it offends you is a rediculous argument. Only those lacking in faith do not "believe" in something. I understand I may be in the minority here on this topic, but I still get my say, - do I not?
Actually I just said it, so I guess I do.

Link to statistic - http://www.thearda.com/quickstats/qs_28.asp