Woman Sues Drug Dealer For Negligence - Page 2

deadbeater · 01-10-2008, 06:06 PM

Hey, if you want to start legalizing marijuana and other drugs, the dealers being successfully sued for slipping in some bad weed is a start.

Elspode · 01-10-2008, 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by deadbeater

Hey, if you want to start legalizing marijuana and other drugs, the dealers being successfully sued for slipping in some bad weed is a start.

Yeah. Make the lawyers see dollar signs, and that shit'll be legal faster than you can say "I'm a tweaker..."

Aliantha · 01-10-2008, 06:56 PM

I don't think they ignored the more serious crimes with regard to Al Capone. The fact is, they couldn't get any 'supportable' evidence even though they knew what was going on.

People kept dying.

Clodfobble · 01-11-2008, 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by tw

By not naming his provider, the dealer is a 'prime contractor' and therefore fully responsible for integrity (safety) of the product. This dealer sold dangerous product and is 100% guilty for selling a defective product.

That 100% guilt upon the dealer is completely independent of another irresponsible action by the user.

But is it a "defect" when crystal meth gives the user a heart attack, or just a known risk? Gun manufacturers are not responsible when the buyers accidentally shoot themselves, why is this drug dealer automatically responsible for the fact that drugs are inherently dangerous?

piercehawkeye45 · 01-11-2008, 10:49 PM

Double Standard?

Guns can be seen as both good and bad while I don't know a single person that can point out a positive effect of crystal meth. There is no other motive to selling crystal meth besides getting money off other people's addictions. While I don't give the dealer 100% of the responsiblity, the dealer deserves a lot. As tw stated, it shouldn't go "the woman gets 40% of the responsibility and the dealer has 60%", both parties are 90-100% responsible for what happened unless there was some sort of sneaky coercion by the dealer.

Also, heart attacks could be a realistic side effect of pure crystal meth.

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Overdosing can lead to convulsions, respiratory and circulatory collapse, coma and death.

http://menshealth.about.com/cs/stds/...tal_meth_2.htm

I'm assuming heart attack can fall under that.

If it was defective crystal meth, then it is still the dealers fault but it still should be wary that these could be avoided by legalized and regulated drug use.

Clodfobble · 01-11-2008, 11:15 PM

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Originally Posted by piercehawkeye45

As tw stated, it shouldn't go "the woman gets 40% of the responsibility and the dealer has 60%", both parties are 90-100% responsible for what happened unless there was some sort of sneaky coercion by the dealer.

Yes, in criminal cases, more than one person can be 100% guilty. But in civil cases, it's not the same. The victim does not "get" anything in the punishment of the criminal, only society does. But assigning a dollar value that is direct restitution for the victim implies that the guilt can be measured. If she's 100% responsible for taking it, then giving her money for taking it doesn't make sense. She's only 100% responsible in a criminal court, where they can both receive appropriate punishment for their individual actions. As it is, he is being punished and she is being rewarded.

piercehawkeye45 · 01-11-2008, 11:42 PM

Yes, I agree that is fucked up.

regular.joe · 01-12-2008, 02:58 AM

What clear and utter bullshit. No one, NO ONE, taking a mind altering substance bought on the street is a victim.

It's way too simple. Both parties are 100% responsible for their actions.

The dealer, breaking the law selling illegal drugs. Is responsible for selling illegal drugs.

The woman breaking the law buying the illegal drugs. Is responsible for putting the drugs into her body. Period.

I'm tired of this PC bullshit trying to make a genderless world full of victims with no responsibility for our own actions.

classicman · 01-27-2008, 05:41 PM

Apparently she won the suit! Does this open the floodgates for every junkie who isn't happy with his "count" or the quality of the drugs bought?

deadbeater · 01-27-2008, 07:25 PM

That will make the dealers make sure that what they sell is pure, not horse manure.

xoxoxoBruce · 01-27-2008, 10:26 PM

Speaking of horse manure...

01-10-2008, 06:56 PM	#3
Aliantha trying hard to be a better person Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 16,493	I don't think they ignored the more serious crimes with regard to Al Capone. The fact is, they couldn't get any 'supportable' evidence even though they knew what was going on. People kept dying. __________________ Kind words are the music of the world. F. W. Faber

01-11-2008, 11:42 PM	#7
piercehawkeye45 Franklin Pierce Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Minnesota Posts: 3,695	Yes, I agree that is fucked up. __________________ I like my perspectives like I like my baseball caps: one size fits all.

01-12-2008, 02:58 AM	#8
regular.joe Старый сержант Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: NC, dreaming of large Russian women. Posts: 1,464	What clear and utter bullshit. No one, NO ONE, taking a mind altering substance bought on the street is a victim. It's way too simple. Both parties are 100% responsible for their actions. The dealer, breaking the law selling illegal drugs. Is responsible for selling illegal drugs. The woman breaking the law buying the illegal drugs. Is responsible for putting the drugs into her body. Period. I'm tired of this PC bullshit trying to make a genderless world full of victims with no responsibility for our own actions. __________________ Birth, wealth, and position are valueless during wartime. Man is only judged by his character --Soldier's Testament. Death, like birth, is a secret of Nature. - Marcus Aurelius.

01-27-2008, 05:41 PM	#9
classicman barely disguised asshole, keeper of all that is holy. Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 23,401	Apparently she won the suit! Does this open the floodgates for every junkie who isn't happy with his "count" or the quality of the drugs bought? __________________ "like strapping a pillow on a bull in a china shop" Bullitt

01-27-2008, 10:26 PM	#11
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	Speaking of horse manure... __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

01-10-2008, 06:06 PM	#1
deadbeater Sir Post-A-Lot Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 439	Hey, if you want to start legalizing marijuana and other drugs, the dealers being successfully sued for slipping in some bad weed is a start.

01-27-2008, 07:25 PM	#10
deadbeater Sir Post-A-Lot Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 439	That will make the dealers make sure that what they sell is pure, not horse manure.

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