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Old 01-04-2009, 12:52 AM   #1
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Are you serious Classicman? Do you even read what you post or least do some research behind it? What are you trying to get out of this?

The same goes for the thing you posted in the Gaza/Israel thread? I still can't tell if that was satire or not.
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Old 01-04-2009, 08:17 PM   #2
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Are you serious Classicman? Do you even read what you post or least do some research behind it? What are you trying to get out of this?
Yes, yes & yes. Nothing at all, just some discussion. I think Bruce understood the point completely as he laid out in the previous post.

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The same goes for the thing you posted in the Gaza/Israel thread? I still can't tell if that was satire or not.
Deal with that issue in that thread.
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Old 01-18-2009, 03:58 AM   #3
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S. Frederick Singer, who holds PhD in Physics from Princeton University, was a Special adviser to President Eisenhower on space developments, a professor of Environmental Sciences at the University of Virginia, and co-author of Unstoppable Global Warming: Every 1,500 Years.

In this New York Times bestseller, authors Singer and co-author Avery present the compelling concept that global temperatures have been rising mostly or entirely because of a natural cycle. Using historic data from two millennia of recorded history combined with natural physical records, they argue that the 1,500 year natural sunspot magnetic waves cycle that has always controlled the earth's climate remains the driving force in the current warming trend. Man created carbon dioxide has very little effect on the earth's climate.

Since the 1,500 year cycle was discovered in the early 1980's it's general characteristics have been confirmed by measurements in: tree rings (living, preserved and fossilized), pollen, coral, glaciers, boreholes, stalagmites, tree lines, and sea sediments. The most recent cycles have been recorded in human history with forced migrations, starvation, and disease during the cold portion of the cycle and greater population, expanded farm land, greater crop variety, and extra building during the warm portion.

The causes of the 1,500 year cycle are not well understood although 600 of them have been identified in the last million years. This permits the authors to be relatively confident that we have been moving into the warm phase of the cycle for the last 150 years. It also suggests that we may have one or two degrees more warming if we are to get to the typical high of the warm phase.
I still think we should be doing everything we can to regain energy Independence on political grounds... now, more than ever.
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