Alfie - 13 year old Dad

[be-bop]

I don't understand how kids get pregnant these days??
you can't go into a music store or supermarket without falling over displays of condoms,you can get the morning after pill without doctors presciption in any chemist store.
They get taught sex education from a very early age so it's not that they don't know how babies get there..
Strange days

Originally Posted by be-bop

I don't understand how kids get pregnant these days??
you can't go into a music store or supermarket without falling over displays of condoms,you can get the morning after pill without doctors presciption in any chemist store.
They get taught sex education from a very early age so it's not that they don't know how babies get there..
Strange days

No morning after pill w/o a Rx if you are a minor (under 18) in the US.

And the more extreme social conservative movement in the US prefer their 8 point plan for abstinence only education, including baseless scare tactics:

sexual activity outside the context of marriage is likely to have harmful psychological and physical effects

bearing children out-of-wedlock is likely to have harmful consequences for the child, the child's parents, and society

[xoxoxoBruce]

Originally Posted by Pie

Think he meant "Rs" = "Republicans"

Originally Posted by classicman

read the link Bruce. It was the author I was referring to not her. I then made the ASSUMPTION that Pie was lumping all R's in with evangelicals.

Originally Posted by classicman

Oh and R's does equal republicans too -

That's what I thought, but didn't want to say anything based on an assumption.

The author of the article (Talbot) is making comparisons Republican/Democrat, red state/blue state and attributing liberal/conservative with a broad brush.

That said, The "social scientists and family-law scholars" that are actually providing the data and conclusions the author quotes, like the one Pie put in her post, are not concerned with politics but religion, values, and actions of the teens. I think their conclusions sound quite reasonable.

[classicman]

Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce

The author of the article (Talbot) is making comparisons Republican/Democrat, red state/blue state and attributing liberal/conservative with a broad brush.

Red Sex, Blue Sex
Why Do So Many Evangelical Teenagers Become Pregnant?
By Margaret Talbot, New America Foundation
The New Yorker | November 3, 2008

THAT is the title of the article in the link. The bold is mine, but IS what the author wrote. Now where is the misunderstanding? There seems to be some confusion in what appears crystal clear.

[xoxoxoBruce]

Originally Posted by classicman

THAT is the title of the article in the link. The bold is mine, but IS what the author wrote. Now where is the misunderstanding? There seems to be some confusion in what appears crystal clear.

I said before, the author of the article is trying to make a red/blue, rep/dem, case with a broad brush. But in writing this article Talbot based it on the work of researchers that make no political connection.

They are working with religion, values, attitudes and goals of the teens. They make no connection with the politics of the teens or their parents. That's why I said although the overall article is obviously bias, the conclusions and reasoning of the actual researchers, look sound.

This is another case of someone with an agenda taking valid research results and trying to twist or embellish it to prove their agenda. That's partisan and dishonest, but doesn't negate the validity of the researcher's results, which is what Pie quoted. For example, if you just read the quote in the post without going to the link, it's not political.

[Tulip]

Originally Posted by be-bop

I don't understand how kids get pregnant these days??
you can't go into a music store or supermarket without falling over displays of condoms,you can get the morning after pill without doctors presciption in any chemist store.
They get taught sex education from a very early age so it's not that they don't know how babies get there..
Strange days

I have a friend who's in dental school. Scored high in his DAT, high grades in his undergrad classes, so yeah, he thinks and claims that he's smart. He was living with his gf (now ex) who got pregnant. I later found out she aborted. I asked him why and he gave me several reasons. The bottom line, they didn't want the baby. The conversation dragged on a bit because I was really against abortion. Anyways, finally I wondered out loud, "Weren't you using protection?!?" He said no because they didn't think she'd get pregnant. Hmm.......