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Old 07-13-2009, 11:08 AM   #106
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Check Bruce's post above.
For what? A source of free money makes her job even easier, on top of the tiny population.
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Old 07-13-2009, 04:49 PM   #107
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By population Calif is number 1, AK is number 47.

By personal income Calif is number 7, AK is number 42.

Fun facts which don't change the fact that Caif is bankrupt and a shinning example of how socialist states fail.
Governing a massive state means nothing if there are very few people there, you know? And California isn't the only state that is in serious trouble. Part of the problem is the federal government isn't doing it's job, and California is having to pay for things which it shouldn't, like the big sucking black hole that is illegal immigration.
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Old 07-13-2009, 08:47 PM   #108
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Governing a massive state means nothing if there are very few people there, you know? And California isn't the only state that is in serious trouble.
It is the only one I have heard of that issuing IOU's and not paying it's bills.

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and California is having to pay for things which it shouldn't, like the big sucking black hole that is illegal immigration.
Agreed.
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Old 07-13-2009, 10:08 PM   #109
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It is the only one I have heard of that issuing IOU's and not paying it's bills.

Agreed.
Well part of it is Prop 13. It's great to reduce taxes by 57% and then lock it all in by required a 2/3 majority to increase them - unless you actually need the money. And even if you wanted to cut social programs and such, you still need a government to handle earthquakes, fires, and other natural disasters. With the stock market tanking, California is probably down to the bone and a 2/3 majority almost guarantees gridlock in any emergency tax measures. I doubt they can find enough significant cuts, hence the stalemate.

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The proposition's passage resulted in a cap on property tax rates in the state, reducing them by an average of 57%. In addition to lowering property taxes, the initiative also contained language requiring a two-thirds majority in both legislative houses for future increases in all state tax rates or amounts of revenue collected, including income tax rates. It also requires two-thirds vote majority in local elections for local governments wishing to raise special taxes. Proposition 13 received an enormous amount of publicity, not only in California, but throughout the United States.[1]
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Old 07-13-2009, 10:53 PM   #110
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It is natural to want more from the government in services than you give it in taxes.

Low tax and low spending might work.
High tax and high spending might work.
Low tax and high spending might be appropriate in times of war, disaster, or economic crisis; but as a business-as-usual policy it can only lead to collapse.

It seems many people lack the resolution to live within their means, either individually or collectively.
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Old 07-14-2009, 01:28 AM   #111
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Alaska is #1 in federal pork.
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Old 07-14-2009, 05:23 AM   #112
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Old 07-14-2009, 08:06 AM   #113
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She said in an e-mail that correspondence with the governor's office has been "positive but cautious," but she added, "we know she will come."

Earlier this year, Palin was offered a speaking role at an annual congressional fundraiser in Washington, but was replaced after she wavered over accepting the invitatino.

The governor eventually appeared at the dinner but did not address the crowd.
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Old 07-14-2009, 10:50 AM   #114
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The real hilarity hasn't even begun, yet!

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Enter now Sarah Palin with very encouraging comments that lead one to believe that she is indeed planning to do what she must: build an independent conservative movement and take this nation back from the liberals which now control both parties. Thanks liberals, for provoking Sarah into the national scene while vetting that family at the same time.
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Old 07-14-2009, 11:26 AM   #115
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She wrote an editorial in the Washington Post about Cap and Trade, in which she made no mention of global warming.
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Old 07-14-2009, 12:17 PM   #116
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Maybe because the program as written will have such a little effect on the actual temperature change in 50 years.
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Old 07-14-2009, 12:31 PM   #117
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Old 07-14-2009, 12:31 PM   #118
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If so, that would have been worth mentioning.
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Old 07-14-2009, 12:39 PM   #119
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True. But the whole Cap and Trade is dependent on so much smoke and mirrors and assumptions, no one can say for sure that it will do any thing. Maybe that is why she didn't mention it (FTR I have not read the article). Well it will raise all the prices of power supply and many other pass throughs.
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Old 07-14-2009, 03:03 PM   #120
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