Cash for Clunkers Program

[monster]

Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce

Seems to me, the family driving a 1980 land-yacht getting 12/14 mpg because they can't afford to trade up, and could with the help of this program buy a 2 or 3 year old car that gets 24/26 mpg, would be a good thing.

What car did you have in mind here?

[xoxoxoBruce]

Originally Posted by monster

What car did you have in mind here?

None in particular, just an example why used cars should be included, even it they stipulate a larger gain for them to qualify.

[monster]

Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce

None in particular, just an example why used cars should be included, even it they stipulate a larger gain for them to qualify.

So you quote an mpg, but can't quote the car? Shame. 'Cause I'd love to buy a second-hand with that mpg, but can't fins a dealer who will go anywhere near that sort of figure.

[xoxoxoBruce]

Wait a fucking minute, I didn't quote mileage, I gave an example of why the program would be just as effective for used cars as for new cars if the object is to improve mileage.

You can't find cars with that mileage?
For 2009;
Accord 22-31
Cobalt 25-35
Malibu 22-33
Focus 24-35
Altima 23-32
Camry 21-31
Accent 27-33
to name just a sampling.

And the same cars for 2006;
Accord 23-31
Cobalt 22-31
Malibu 21-29
Focus 23-31
Altima 21-29
Camry 21-31
Accent 27-32
I don't see a lot of difference there.

[monster]

OK, I'll give you the accent, thanks for the example. For the rest, though, especially the 2006, the lower end of their range is below the 24-26 MPG you suggested (and I misread 26-28, sorry), and given that a used car is an unknown, wouldn't you think such programs would assume the worst case scenario?

I don't disagree that it might have been a better program if it was also extended to used cars, I can just see some reasons why they might have been excluded. I'm also very leery of used cars and their claims to mpg.

Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce

Wait a fucking minute, I didn't quote mileage, I gave an example of why the program would be just as effective for used cars as for new cars if the object is to improve mileage.

You can't find cars with that mileage?
For 2009;
Accord 22-31
Cobalt 25-35
Malibu 22-33
Focus 24-35
Altima 23-32
Camry 21-31
Accent 27-33
to name just a sampling.

And the same cars for 2006;
Accord 23-31
Cobalt 22-31
Malibu 21-29
Focus 23-31
Altima 21-29
Camry 21-31
Accent 27-32
I don't see a lot of difference there.

[xoxoxoBruce]

The EPA numbers are estimated mileage for city and highway mileage. When I gave an example of trading, "a 1980 land-yacht getting 12/14 mpg" for "a 2 or 3 year old car that gets 24/26 mpg", it would have to be averages as the numbers are far to close together to be the city and highway numbers... except my Ford pickup that got 10mpg at 25mph empty and 10mpg at 60mph with a ton on.