Priorities - Page 3

Undertoad · 08-29-2009, 11:09 PM

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...offered four Profs. from the Australian National Uni Philosophy program about $250,000 each provided they all came as a group...

Four Aussie Philosophy profs! What a coincidence. Were they all named Bruce?

DanaC · 08-30-2009, 08:29 AM

Hahahahah. very good bruce.

SteveDallas · 08-30-2009, 11:30 AM

The salaries of college & university professors in the US are so variable, it's almost meaningless to talk about nationwide averages. (Harvard Business School professors make more than Central Middle State University professors? Duh.)

Having said that, some of you may find this breakdown by institution interesting. However, it generally does not include adjunct instructors--those who are hired on a contract-per-course basis. This would bring the averages down significantly. It also doesn't account for pay differences between different disciplines.

DanaC · 09-01-2009, 08:21 PM

It seems a touch strange to me that in a university the football coach takes the big money. I realise it's a cultural thing...but it always did strike me as very strange. I don't get why football is so important in an academic institution. I understand why management might end up getting paid more than, say a leading academic...just...but a football coach? Nothing against football coaches, but wtf?

monster · 09-02-2009, 12:27 AM

it just doesn't happen in the UK. AT ALL. there used to be amateur football (soccer) and rugby) but it was phased out. NO-ONE is interested in University students and what they can do with their balls. except Loughborough (Luffbra). The ONLY UK Uni sport televised is the Oxford/Cambridge boat race. it's a different Universe.

(Dana -the Stadium of the University of Michigan would shame any in the premier league)

xoxoxoBruce · 09-02-2009, 01:01 AM

Here are the stadiums, and they fill them 6 or 8 times per season. Now that's just the top 17, of thousands of them. Add the TV viewing and there are millions upon millions of people watching college football.

monster · 09-02-2009, 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce

Here are the stadiums. and they fill them 6 or 8 times per season. Now that's just the top 17, of thousands of them. Add the TV viewing and there are millions upon millions of people watching college football.

Your link opens a reply to topic page. Either I am insane or.....

Pie · 09-02-2009, 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by monster

Either I am insane or.....

Why is this an either/or statement?

Shawnee123 · 09-02-2009, 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by monster

Your link opens a reply to topic page. Either I am insane or.....

AND it logs me out!

xoxoxoBruce · 09-02-2009, 11:09 AM

fixed it, thanks.

smoothmoniker · 09-02-2009, 12:51 AM

Merc, academia is pretty hefty in the perks department, at every level, not just at the top.

Standard perks include great health insurance, matching retirement contributions, free or subsidized housing, use of an on-campus faculty gym, free public transportation, travel reimbursement for research trips (i.e. family vacations), a 4-figure book stipend, and the biggie, free college tuition for immediate family members (at most colleges, that's transferable to other institutions as well - my kids can go for free at almost any school in the US).

Many things suck about the academic world. The job perks, however, do not.

glatt · 09-02-2009, 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by smoothmoniker

and the biggie, free college tuition for immediate family members (at most colleges, that's transferable to other institutions as well - my kids can go for free at almost any school in the US).

My dad was a professor and it meant the difference between me going to the college of my choice and going to the local state school.

ZenGum · 09-02-2009, 01:00 AM

And the chicks, Smoov, don't forget the chicks.

Seriously, though, outside US, only a few of those perks apply - generous superannuation, some research travel (the prof only, not the family) and if you want the gym, you pay for it. Books get counted toward pulication points which can mean promotion; we commies have socialised health and semi-socialised tertiary edumacation.

monster · 09-02-2009, 11:02 AM

hah! now fixie linkie, I wanna see stadia

monster · 09-02-2009, 11:29 AM

Michigan doesn't look like that any more! They're nearing the end of a HUGE building project -lots more boxes and stuff. HUGE. And yet they are still exempt from paying taxes to the city....... mutter mutter (I live maybe three miles from the stadium)

09-02-2009, 12:27 AM	#5
monster I hear them call the tide Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Perpetual Chaos Posts: 30,852	it just doesn't happen in the UK. AT ALL. there used to be amateur football (soccer) and rugby) but it was phased out. NO-ONE is interested in University students and what they can do with their balls. except Loughborough (Luffbra). The ONLY UK Uni sport televised is the Oxford/Cambridge boat race. it's a different Universe. (Dana -the Stadium of the University of Michigan would shame any in the premier league) __________________ The most difficult thing is the decision to act, the rest is merely tenacity Amelia Earhart

09-02-2009, 01:01 AM	#6
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	Here are the stadiums, and they fill them 6 or 8 times per season. Now that's just the top 17, of thousands of them. Add the TV viewing and there are millions upon millions of people watching college football. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump. Last edited by xoxoxoBruce; 09-02-2009 at 11:10 AM. Reason: fixed link

09-02-2009, 11:09 AM	#10
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	fixed it, thanks. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

09-02-2009, 12:51 AM	#11
smoothmoniker to live and die in LA Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 2,090	Merc, academia is pretty hefty in the perks department, at every level, not just at the top. Standard perks include great health insurance, matching retirement contributions, free or subsidized housing, use of an on-campus faculty gym, free public transportation, travel reimbursement for research trips (i.e. family vacations), a 4-figure book stipend, and the biggie, free college tuition for immediate family members (at most colleges, that's transferable to other institutions as well - my kids can go for free at almost any school in the US). Many things suck about the academic world. The job perks, however, do not. __________________ to live and die in LA

09-02-2009, 01:00 AM	#13
ZenGum Doctor Wtf Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Badelaide, Baustralia Posts: 12,861	And the chicks, Smoov, don't forget the chicks. Seriously, though, outside US, only a few of those perks apply - generous superannuation, some research travel (the prof only, not the family) and if you want the gym, you pay for it. Books get counted toward pulication points which can mean promotion; we commies have socialised health and semi-socialised tertiary edumacation. __________________ Shut up and hug. MoreThanPretty, Nov 5, 2008. Just because I'm nominally polite, does not make me a pussy. Sundae Girl.

08-30-2009, 11:30 AM	#3
SteveDallas Your Bartender Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Philly Burbs, PA Posts: 7,651	The salaries of college & university professors in the US are so variable, it's almost meaningless to talk about nationwide averages. (Harvard Business School professors make more than Central Middle State University professors? Duh.) Having said that, some of you may find this breakdown by institution interesting. However, it generally does not include adjunct instructors--those who are hired on a contract-per-course basis. This would bring the averages down significantly. It also doesn't account for pay differences between different disciplines.

09-02-2009, 11:02 AM	#14
monster I hear them call the tide Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Perpetual Chaos Posts: 30,852	hah! now fixie linkie, I wanna see stadia __________________ The most difficult thing is the decision to act, the rest is merely tenacity Amelia Earhart

09-02-2009, 11:29 AM	#15
monster I hear them call the tide Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Perpetual Chaos Posts: 30,852	Michigan doesn't look like that any more! They're nearing the end of a HUGE building project -lots more boxes and stuff. HUGE. And yet they are still exempt from paying taxes to the city....... mutter mutter (I live maybe three miles from the stadium) __________________ The most difficult thing is the decision to act, the rest is merely tenacity Amelia Earhart

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