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Old 09-29-2009, 07:00 PM   #1
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What Merc does not understand in his fuck-filled rant (excuse me, his "patient" response) against the Democratic Congress in 2007-08, is that Congress does not write regulations...the Executive Branch does.
Epic Fail.

If this does not fix the problem the Demoncrats and you will take all of the blame.

I am really ok with that. As I have said repeatedly the Bills proposed do not fix the problems with healthcare in the US and in the end we will be stuck with a huge ass bill that our great-great-grandchildren will be paying for and you still will not be doing what is needed to be done.
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Old 09-29-2009, 09:57 PM   #2
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Epic Fail.

If this does not fix the problem the Demoncrats and you (ME?) will take all of the blame.

I am really ok with that. As I have said repeatedly the Bills proposed do not fix the problems with healthcare in the US and in the end we will be stuck with a huge ass bill that our great-great-grandchildren will be paying for and you still will not be doing what is needed to be done.
It should come as no surprise to anyone that the Democrats will be judged on the success or failure of the stimulus, health care reform and other major issues.

I have been clear that I want them to succeed and believe these policies were the best way forward for the country facing an economic and health care crisis. However, I don't think the White House, Congress, my friends or family will give me a share of the credit for any success or assign any blame to me for a failure.

IMO, the difference between us is that I have tried not to judge the success or failure of programs in progress, recognizing that they time to have an impact, positive or negative whereas you declared the stimulus program a failure after 3-4 months, declared health reform a failure before Congress has even consolidated the various proposals into a single bill and have determined that our great great grandchildren will be left with a “huge ass bill” when even the best economists cant predict the level of future economic growth with any degree certainty....overall, an "epic failure" when we are still in the first quarter of the game.

You have it made it clear in other discussions that you want to see Obama and the Democrats fail to the point of also raising such petty issues as European trips by the Speaker that are as old as the Congress itself, your comparison of the Speaker to Hitler, an innocuous song at one elementary school fresh off the inauguration of the president, and numerous other examples of partisan bullshit backed by editorials that share your agenda and often misrepresent the facts.

I understand why you choose to take that approach but I don't think it leads to reasonable discussions of the issues, nor, IMO, do the tirades like the one above - #35 or making it personal with your "fuck you/fuck off" and "you're an asshole" directed at me as you have on other occasions (not to mention an especially ignorant attack of my family heritage).

But putting that aside, the topic here was truck safety regulations and at the very least, I think my last post provided some context for how regulations are promulgated, how that process has nothing to do with Congress and can be abused by the Executive Branch and how it can (and is, to some degree) be remedied.

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Old 09-30-2009, 08:44 AM   #3
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... As I have said repeatedly the Bills proposed do not fix the problems with healthcare in the US and in the end we will be stuck with a huge ass bill that our great-great-grandchildren will be paying for and you still will not be doing what is needed to be done.
Just like the bush/repubican/conservative lead Iraq war debacle.
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