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Old 10-02-2009, 01:56 PM   #1
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Thanks, but that didn't answer the question.
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Old 10-02-2009, 02:12 PM   #2
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Thanks, but that didn't answer the question.
I'm not suggesting that all organizations dont have an agenda.

The point is to educate yourself on any organization's agenda and/or actions before buying into every allegation or news story by other organizations with opposing agendas and with whom you might agree.

Don't jump on any bandwagon until you know the facts.

I dont plan on joining or contributing to PETA nor will I contribute to their biggest, most well-funded detractor, the CCF.
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Old 10-02-2009, 02:19 PM   #3
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I don't particularly care about PETA one way or the other, but ...
The CCF is a front group for numerous industries, who don't like PETA's positions
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Oh...and the CCF is also funded by the tobacco industry which still does animal testing...hooking primates up to round the clock ventilation machines to "prove" no correlation between smoking and lung cancer.
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The website, PETA Kills Animals, is also a site of the CCF:
The CCF is not interested in representing consumers.
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I have no doubt that CCF spreads misinformation about PETA that is more in the interest of its industry funders than the public interest.
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I'm not suggesting that all organizations dont have an agenda.
Nor posters - It seems you are more interested in attacking/discrediting CCF
(not that I care about them)
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Old 10-02-2009, 02:20 PM   #4
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Nor posters - It seems you are more interested in attacking/discrediting CCF
(not that I care about them)
Nope...just presenting their agenda so that both sides are available for all to see, particularly since they spend $millions on an anti-PETA campaign.

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Old 10-02-2009, 02:30 PM   #5
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Nope...just presenting their agenda so that both sides are available for all to see, particularly since they spend $millions on an anti-PETA campaign.
But it's not just two sides. In this thread you have seen links that PETA admits they euthanize animals. Wikipedia says it too. Newsweek says it. And so does CCF.

I never heard of CCF before today. Discrediting them does nothing to change the dialog about PETA.
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Old 10-02-2009, 02:34 PM   #6
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But it's not just two sides. In this thread you have seen links that PETA admits they euthanize animals. Wikipedia says it too. Newsweek says it. And so does CCF.

I never heard of CCF before today. Discrediting them does nothing to change the dialog about PETA.
OK...I disagree.

I think including information on PETA's most well-funded detractor is relevant, particularly if the CCF is behind the latest new story (which IMO, is not very well documented) as it has been the "source" of other similar stories in the past.
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Old 10-03-2009, 10:29 AM   #7
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Discrediting them does nothing to change the dialog about PETA.
That pretty much sums up the last 2 pages of dialog. I consider PETA to be a near domestic terrorist organization.
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Old 10-03-2009, 10:38 AM   #8
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Remember the picture of the dog in his cage that the Cap'n posted. Would you all really want to have that poor dog live in that cage for years? I wouldnt. Sure, I would rather see it get a loving home, but I dont think the odds are good for that.

The pet business has a really ugly side to it.
Would a doggie Escape From New York be better? Pay for their trip to Montana, fence in a big area, build shelters, spay/neuter them, have someone drop in food daily, and let them live out their natural lives. May be expensive, but it would remove the "humans purposely killing dogs" aspect.

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... I consider PETA to be a near domestic terrorist organization.
Of course you do.
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