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Old 09-22-2011, 02:31 PM   #46
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I gots mine & you gots yers. Thats the beauty of it.
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Old 09-22-2011, 08:13 PM   #47
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If one was ever fortunate enough to make a million dollars a year in income,
one should willingly give back $450,000 of it to "the government"
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Edward Filene of Boston's Filene's Department Stores might have agreed with you.
He is supposed to have said:

"Why shouldn't the American people take half my money from me ?
I took all of it from them."

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Old 09-23-2011, 04:38 AM   #48
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So if we take all the money from all the millionaires in the US how much would that help reduce the deficit today?
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Old 09-23-2011, 04:56 AM   #49
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So if we take all the money from all the millionaires in the US how much would that help reduce the deficit today?
As far as I am aware, and I stand to be corrected, nobody is proposing stripping the wealthy of their fortunes.

Ffs. Hyperbolic nonsense.
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Old 09-23-2011, 05:14 AM   #50
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As far as I am aware, and I stand to be corrected, nobody is proposing stripping the wealthy of their fortunes.

Ffs. Hyperbolic nonsense.
Oh, I understand that. But you would not get that sense if you listen to our president. What he says is hyperbolic nonsense because even if you were to take all of the money of all of millionaires and billionaires in this country it wouldn't pay for much of what he has already spent.
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Old 09-23-2011, 05:55 AM   #51
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And yet apparently, if the lower than stella incomed families pay more and get less then that'll sort it out.

It's peanuts, a red herring, a distraction, and a drop in the ocean when the money is coming from the wealthy. But it's necessary and substantial, and will save the economy if it's taken from old age pensioners.
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Old 09-23-2011, 06:04 AM   #52
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And yet apparently, if the lower than stella incomed families pay more and get less then that'll sort it out.

It's peanuts, a red herring, a distraction, and a drop in the ocean when the money is coming from the wealthy. But it's necessary and substantial, and will save the economy if it's taken from old age pensioners.
I don't think taking it from old age pensioners would be that helpful. It's peanuts, a red herring, a distraction, and a drop in the ocean when Obama thinks he can fix the economy by continually repeating "Millionaires and Billionaires" or "Teachers, Fireman, and Policeman" in every speech, he is pandering to his base to get re-elected.
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Old 09-23-2011, 11:13 AM   #53
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he is pandering to his base to get re-elected.
And the R's are not? Please. They are all in full campaign mode.
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And the R's are not? Please. They are all in full campaign mode.
No doubt.
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Old 09-23-2011, 01:55 PM   #55
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The lengths Paul Krugman will go to further the lie that the rich don't pay their "fair share" of taxes knows no bounds.

In his New York Times column Friday, the Nobel laureate in economics claimed, "[T]he federal tax burden has fallen for all income classes":

The [Congressional] budget office's numbers show that the federal tax burden has fallen for all income classes, which itself runs counter to the rhetoric you hear from the usual suspects. But that burden has fallen much more, as a percentage of income, for the wealthy. Partly this reflects big cuts in top income tax rates, but, beyond that, there has been a major shift of taxation away from wealth and toward work: tax rates on corporate profits, capital gains and dividends have all fallen, while the payroll tax -- the main tax paid by most workers -- has gone up.

Really? Well let's look at some of the CBO's numbers:
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Old 09-23-2011, 02:03 PM   #56
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Having played around on that site, i think I'm beginning to see why it is you seem so angry most of the time.
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Old 09-23-2011, 02:07 PM   #57
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Having played around on that site, i think I'm beginning to see why it is you seem so angry most of the time.
eh... some of it is ok, I hate all the media now days. I like individuals on various channels. The only place I find something remotely close to the middle is on PBS News Hour.
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Old 09-24-2011, 11:20 AM   #58
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I hate all the media now days.
An extremist understands everything in terms of hate. View your tag line. If representing facts honestly, then you also said that you openly advocated murder of innocent people. Ergo that tagline. Your hate justified by their politics.

Creating a world that is only black and white; good and evil; them and us; etc is so much easier. Those are the people who bring extremists to power. Hitler being a perfect exact. Hitler came to power by preaching to the same emotions you use. Hate justified by 'black and white' thinking.

It is easy to identify the most wacko extremists. Everything is in terms of liberal and conservatives. Black and white is how dumb people are told how to think. Reality is about moderates verses extremists. Only extremists invent bogeymen (ie liberals) to justify their hate. Hitler used Jews. TheMercenary uses liberals.

Hitler had his gas chambers. Fortunately we don't let TheMercenary have knives made from WTC steel.

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Old 09-24-2011, 04:22 PM   #59
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Your grammar is really slipping lately.
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Merc is out there where Pluto used to be. Tea bot for sure.
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