Obama's attempts at fomenting a Class War

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by BigV

I think it *is* class warfare. I think you lie don't understand when you use the word "foment" when "defends against" or "responds to" would have been more appropriate. But, I'm no grammer nazi.

It is class warfare. And though you seem incapable of perceiving it, he is the Commander-in-Chief for you *and* for me; our mutual champion in this war against our shared enemy.

Thanks for another lecture I don't need.

Not sure where you learned about the word but this is the definition I use:

fo·ment   [foh-ment]
verb (used with object)
1.
to instigate or foster (discord, rebellion, etc.); promote the growth or development of: to foment trouble; to foment discontent.

I have not "lied" about anything. He is the CIC of military forces. He is not "your" CIC.

His goal during his run up to the nation is to divide the groups of have's and have not's and foment a class warfare in an effort to win re-election and I think he should be removed from office through any legal means. Show what's your issue?

[Stormieweather]

There was already a class war going on. It's been waged for the last couple of decades, by the elite, on the working class. But we (we, as in, the working class) have been fed the propaganda about high taxation hurting jobs, trickle down, and the good old "American Dream".

We've been royally eff'd.

Obama is useless simply because he isn't accomplishing anything for the middle class. He hasn't gone nearly far enough or done enough or led enough. He may have opened a few eyes, but too many are still buying that old bull about "trickle down".

But pulease, Obama didn't start the class war. Or "foment" it. He is helping to highlight the one being waged on the average American. And you can be damn sure there are PLENTY of powerful people who do not want that to happen.

Class Warfare
Income Inequality
Trickle down

[BigV]

Originally Posted by TheMercenary

Thanks for another lecture I don't need.

Yes you do.

Not sure where you learned about the word but this is the definition I use:

fo·ment   [foh-ment]
verb (used with object)
1.
to instigate or foster (discord, rebellion, etc.); promote the growth or development of: to foment trouble; to foment discontent.

Ok, which sense of "foment" are you using?

For that matter, I'm not sure where you learned about the word "warfare", but this is the definition I use:

war·fare   [wawr-fair]
noun
1.
the process of military struggle between two nations or groups of nations; war.
2.
armed conflict between two massed enemies, armies, or the like.
3.
conflict, especially when vicious and unrelenting, between competitors, political rivals, etc.

Maybe what you're saying is Obama is promoting the development of vicious and unrelenting conflict between political rivals. Assuming you're being literal in your use of language. That would be a bit novel, but ok. In my common use of foment it means to incite, to spark, to start, to instigate trouble. I don't believe Obama has started this fight. He's just the first President to take MY side (and your side, economically speaking). As for CiC, I was just playing along with your warfare imagery. Any time you want to shift to strictly literal language, you tell me (in plain terms, please). I will do the same.

I have not "lied" about anything. He is the CIC of military forces. He is not "your" CIC.

His goal during his run up to the nation is to divide the groups of have's and have not's and foment a class warfare in an effort to win re-election and I think he should be removed from office through any legal means. Show what's your issue?

My issue is that we, Americans, are in the midst of such a class warfare as you describe. I'm agreeing with you. What my issue is that although you and I are probably on the same side of this "warfare", the positions you defend are those of the other side of this warfare. That's why I struck "lied" and went with other words. Frankly the whole characterization as "class warfare" is pretty hyperbolic and has real limits as for how useful it is. It's quite a limited framework for what is really in our country.

In war, the goal is to defeat the enemy. Come on. The different political parties are not enemies. Rivals, but anyone who gets whipped into a froth about the "enemy" has lost it. And "defeat"? Really? Do you want subjugation of the enemy? See where I'm goin here? The whole war metaphor is .. .. of extremely limited use for *MY* goal of getting stuff done.

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by BigV

Yes you do.

No, you are wasting oxygen.

Ok, which sense of "foment" are you using?

For that matter, I'm not sure where you learned about the word "warfare", but this is the definition I use:

Nice try at a change of the subject.

The rest of your comments are a failure at an attempt to justify your position. Obama is Fomenting a Class war in an effort to get re-elected. It is a class war in all of the classic sense of the word. He is trying to split the electorate, no differently than the Republickins tried to split the electorate on Gay Marriage and a host of other stupid issues.