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Old 04-15-2012, 02:34 PM   #76
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Old 04-15-2012, 07:18 PM   #77
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Played Sim City long before we came to the US. It made absolutely no fucking sense then. It's so scarily real now I don't want to play anymore......especially the way you can drop taxes all year to keep people happy then crank them up just before April and all is well with your budget
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Old 04-16-2012, 11:48 AM   #78
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It's just the bookend to this... but with more fairness behind it.
Meh...

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Obama argued “The notion that it doesn’t solve the entire problem doesn’t mean that we shouldn’t do it at all,” he explained.

That’s true, to a point. But Obama’s claim that the Buffett Rule “is something that will get us moving in the right direction toward fairness” would be more convincing if he took other steps in that direction, too.

Three years into his presidency, Obama has not introduced a plan for comprehensive tax reform — arguably the most important vehicle for fixing the nation’s finances and boosting long-term economic growth. His opponents haven’t done much better, but that doesn’t excuse the president’s failures: appointing the Simpson-Bowles commission and then disregarding its findings, offering a plan for business tax reform only, and issuing a series of platitudes. The Buffett Rule, rather than overhauling the tax code, would simply add another layer.
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The pity is that Obama doesn’t use his unrivaled political skill to sell a tax plan of more consequence — and less gimmickry.
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Old 04-16-2012, 11:51 AM   #79
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“It’s simple,” the president said on Tuesday. “If you make more money — more than $1 million a year, not if you have $1 million, but if you make more than $1 million a year, you should pay at least the same percentage of your income in taxes as middle-class families do.”

And that is simple. But it’s not how the Buffett rule actually works.
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me: We’ve adapted the bill to have a phase in between one and two million. So you pay a portion of the tax the Buffett rule adds as you go up the line between one and two million and it doesn’t kick in fully until you get to two million.

EK: So if it’s not 30 percent, what’s the minimum effective tax rate someone making $1,000,001 would pay?

SW: It’s hard to do the math on that because it would be highly specific to their situation. If they were paying 18 percent now, and if they only went over one million by one dollar, they would be 18 percent plus one one-millionth of the Buffett rule adjustment. And if they were one dollar short of two million, they would pay the full 30 percent minus one one-million of the full adjustment. So there’s a ramp.
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Old 04-16-2012, 01:53 PM   #80
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So the rule is more reasonable, more sophisticated, more, dare I say, nuanced than it has been portrayed by the bumperstickers and soundbiters. I believe that's a good thing, don't you?

Also, further in the article, the difference between the $47 billion and $160 billion figures is explained. Which one do you think is more likely, given this additional information? I invite all of you to comment, not just classicman.
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Old 04-16-2012, 02:48 PM   #81
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I dare say that those who would be most impacted by this are probably already prepared to lessen its impact upon them.
Knowing that politicians over/underestimate lie to their benefit - the most reliable guess is somewhere in the middle.
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Old 04-23-2012, 02:19 PM   #82
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Life Goes On... long after the THREAT of Living is Gone.
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Old 04-23-2012, 11:33 PM   #83
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Life Goes On... long after the THREAT of Living is Gone.
That sounds like a suicide message. Is suicide an option in Sim City?
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Old 04-24-2012, 11:10 AM   #84
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It's called a communications gap.. you'd think I had wax in my ears or something because when I listen/watch to movies, music, lectures, people on the net...I hear one thing but they are saying something totally different.. for instance when I first started listen to mettalica I used to say "don't call me master" when it's really saying "obey your master"...

It's supposed to say "life goes on long after the ""thrill"" living is gone..

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Old 04-24-2012, 12:37 PM   #85
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FWIW, you are still wrong.
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Old 04-24-2012, 12:47 PM   #86
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Old 04-26-2012, 03:11 PM   #87
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