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These are the default budget cuts required by law, and the only way they won't occur is if Congress agrees to do something else. We're talking about up to $1.2 Trillion in cuts through 2021. Brought to you by the Democrats (and Republicans.) How does this simple fact fit in your delusional worldview? Is it like a square peg trying to fit into a round hole? "NOT ONE PENNY" Last edited by glatt; 12-07-2012 at 10:47 AM. |
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glatt, thank you for that succinct reply.
Adak, in response to your question to me, I await your response to glatt's clear statement refuting your claim that there've been no spending cuts.
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Like Bugs Bunny, you will see Donald Duck and his friend Little Lulu walking down an ordinary street. Then Yosemite Sam takes 50 bucks away from Wile E Coyote and THEN how will he buy ACME products, inevitably causing 3000 employees to lose their jobs, resulting in a collapse in The Hundred Acres Wood.
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We've secretly replaced Adak's copyist with infinite monkey. Let's see if he notices.
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It’s time to leave behind the doctrine of the world according to Fox along with its vocabulary. Let’s get honest for once. How about: “Big corporations, which continue to outsource American jobs overseas, demand that the middle class relinquish its EARNED BENEFITS and give the taxes from their hard earned pay checks to special interests which couldn’t care less about this country or its people.” Please respond with something other than dogma. If I want to take everything on faith, I’ll join the Branch Davidians. Last edited by SamIam; 12-07-2012 at 03:39 PM. |
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While Adak has escaped off into some delusional fantasy land and is busy scribbling “Who is John Galt” on the wall in the men’s room, the real world marches on, and the Republicans still retain first place honors in the bizarre humor competition.
Yesterday, Senate minority leader Mitch McConnell actually stood up and filibustered his own bill. Wait... What? Quote:
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12-08-2012, 05:08 AM | #52 | |
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These are cuts, which if they are activated, will be cuts in PROJECTED and /or FUTURE spending. NOTHING HAS BEEN CUT FROM CURRENT SPENDING YET! NOT ONE PENNEY! These are the sad facts - always a trial for liberals to look at, but give it a try. Do you see any reduction in our National Debt projections? NO. Do you notice any reduction in our National Deficit projections? Yes. That means we'll have higher tax revenues - and if it happens, it won't just be on the rich. They don't have THAT much money. True, it MIGHT be reduced, but all it seems we'll have right now, is a slower growth to our National Debt. And despite all the hot air and hand waving going on in Washington, (where Today, the Speaker of the House said there was no progress in the negotiations with the White House, because the White House has never negotiated on any issue, so far.) I hope this fiscal cliff actually works, when and if we get to that point. Politicians LOVE to spend our money. It buys them votes, by attracting donors to their campaigns, when they do it. Not just the Democrats, either. EVERY politician wants to be re-elected several times, and they need to curry favor to get their campaign coffers $stu$$ed$ to overflowing. It's not THEIR money, why NOT use it to help themselves get re-elected? "You want a new bridge to nowhere?" "Sure, here's a few million for ya!" "You want a new airport?" "Absolutely! We'll call it an anti terrorist auxiliary civil defense resource!" Lovely! I am writing about ACTUAL cuts in CURRENT spending, not something projected, like Wimpy's repayment on his hamburgers, "Next Tuesday". And right now, there has been $0.00 dollars cut in actual spending. NOT ONE PENNEY!
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You DO understand that it was OUR DEAR POLITICIANS, who have made outsourcing our jobs overseas, necessary if you want to stay in business, don't you? Apple is bringing back a few jobs, but by and large, if you wanted to compete, you had no choice but to open a plant overseas. It wasn't the businessman's choice - it was the dear sweet politicians, who made it a necessity. But who gets blamed for it? Why the dirty evil businessman - why can't he compete with nationalized "slaves" working for $2-$10 per DAY? The nerve of those businessmen!! When it comes to Tax code reform, Sam - you are preaching to the choir! Our tax code is an utter mess, with thousands of loopholes, grants, exclusions, you name it - it's got it. Any sense of fairness went out the window, long long ago. Reagan was the last guy who cut our tax code down to size. |
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Oh, wait, i forgot, they aren't ~real conservatives~ like you so they don't count.
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If the Democrats bent any further in their negotiations they'd be hairpin shaped.
The tea-party influence in the republican negotiations has meant absolute heel digging and a refusal to consider any compromises.
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Dear Adak,
Please learn to spell 'penny.' Sincerely, Mrs McGillicuddy's 2nd grade class |
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No CNN, no Internet, no newspapers, no pointless arguments with strangers. Just me and my Corgi and the incredible landscapes along with clear desert nights where the sky is filled with more stars than many people ever get to see. Yeah, I'd like that. Going to go if I can. You're actually better at arguing science than you are political issues, and that's pretty pathetic. You must think we're so stupid that we don't even know the difference between the national debt and the deficit. Sorry, you tried to sneak that one past the wrong crowd. Maybe Glatt will explain it to you if you ask him nicely. I'm done wasting my time. |
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Obama and the Democrats have spent 4 years cutting programs and taxes. The increased spending was all to save big business, jobs, and fix what the republicans broke.
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I would like you to name a few big items that the left has compromised on more than the conservatives: Counterpoint: 1) Cut the spending. I don't mean as a percent above the current spending (which they are calling now "the baseline"). I'm talking about cutting ACTUAL current spending. 2) Obama care 3) military strength (we now have less than half the number of ships we had in the peak 1980's), for one example. 4) Gun ownership and/or right to carry. 5) Federal tax code littered with exclusions, exemptions, and both intentional and unintentional loopholes. 6) Trade treaties that force our businesses to go overseas to use cheap, almost slave labor, in order to stay competitive. 7) Paying Egypt 400 Million dollars per year in "Foreign Aid", for bribe money. Lots of other countries get this kind of aid, as well. 8) Bring our sons and daughters home from most (not all), of these overseas military bases. We don't need to protect Japan any more - they should take over their own defense. Same with South Korea - they have a HUGE economy, and a very effective military (if rather small imo). We need to be watching the DMZ between N and S Korea for 62 years, like we need another hole in our heads. We don't need to protect West Germany anymore. The East Germans have promised not to attack! Overall, the only thing the Conservatives got in the last two presidents' terms has been the Bush tax cuts - and if there is ONE single new bill that benefits more working Americans than a broad reduction in income tax, I don't know what it would be. That's a winner for everyone, if it applies to everyone. |
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I agree that the Republicans AND the Democrats both were flagrantly stupid in pandering to "home ownership for everyone", and the "casino" type investment banking that Wall St. has been doing. I will point out that it was Barney Franks (Democrat) who testified to Congress that the FANNIE MAE and FREDDIE MAC loan program was in "excellent health", in June of '08, and did NOTHING to stop it from going bankrupt in the next six months. Yes, some big investments by the Feds were probably needed, just to help calm the nerves of the many people affected by the crash of '08. You have to understand that, as our Debt climbs closer to 100% of our GDP, our leaders feel compelled to do more risky things to keep us fiscally moving forward. We can't keep walking barefoot across the broken glass, and not expect the occasional cut. |
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