CyberBully - Page 7

capnhowdy · 03-28-2009, 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by lumberjim

backstabber!

The fucker shouldn't have run. I was going for his eye.

Undertoad · 03-28-2009, 12:52 PM

In my situation the adults helped make me a target. A 6th grade teacher was an asshole to me, a 7th grade chemistry teacher slapped me hard across the face after I pushed my friend's books off the table, a 7th grade guidance counselor simply looked the other way. Adults don't protect victims just because they're adults. Sometimes they have the same bullying instincts as the kids do.

I stabbed one of my bullyers with a pencil in 7th grade. It had no effect.

DanaC · 03-28-2009, 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Undertoad

In my situation the adults helped make me a target. A 6th grade teacher was an asshole to me, a 7th grade chemistry teacher slapped me hard across the face after I pushed my friend's books off the table, a 7th grade guidance counselor simply looked the other way. Adults don't protect victims just because they're adults. Sometimes they have the same bullying instincts as the kids do.

I stabbed one of my bullyers with a pencil in 7th grade. It had no effect.

Unfortunately that matches some of my experience UT. Games (PE) teachers were the worst for that, but I recall two other teachers who effectively sanctioned the bullying. For example: once I'd been ostracised by my entire year, I cuoldn't just enter a class and take a seat. Because of overcrowding issues, there were often too few places in a class and someone wuold have to tag themselves onto the end of a desk, making a two place desk into a three place desk. Each time I'd enter my French class I'd try and find somewhere to sit and at each desk I'd get hissed at "Fuck off, dont sit here" " Eww, dont sit here dirty bitch" (dirty = eczema). I'd be fretting and trying not to show it, trying to find somewhere where I am not being hissed at. The teacher on more than one occasion shouted at me to 'Stop fussing and find a seat". She cannot have been unaware. Id been ostracised for nearly a year and I know there'd been a crisis meeting between my teachers and parents.

Not unusual.

Clodfobble · 03-28-2009, 01:13 PM

Teachers can make it worse by trying to help, too. In fourth grade I was sitting alone on the playground, as was usual and fine with me, and the teacher came up and wanted to know why I wasn't playing with the other kids. Well, the short answer was they didn't like me and I was happier being alone. Oh no, she insisted, that can't be true. She marched me over to the large group of popular kids and ordered them to stop ostracizing me and "let" me play with them. Yeah, that didn't have any unintended consequences as soon as her back was turned again, no sirree.

DanaC · 03-29-2009, 08:55 AM

You can only kick the bullies out if you have somewhere to kick them out to to. Chances are those are precisely the kids we most need to reach. Just kicking them out of the school isn't the answer. It stops them bullying the kids in that school but it does nothing to resolve the core issues. They're still kids. They're likely suffering a good deal of emotional or psychological pain and/or confusion. They're the ones who most need our attention and concern.

sugarpop · 03-29-2009, 11:06 AM

Well then, maybe there should be a special school for problem kids, so all the kids who are there to learn aren't distracted and abused while trying to get an education, and the bullies can get the special education and attention THEY need. I know we aren't dealing with the problem very well here in the states, at least in Savannah.

xoxoxoBruce · 03-29-2009, 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by sugarpop

Well then, maybe there should be a special school for problem kids,....

Who's going to pay for this "special school"? I really don't want to spend another million dollars a year for every kid that needs a slap up side the head.

classicman · 03-29-2009, 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce

I really don't want to spend another million dollars a year for every kid that needs a slap up side the head.

lol - ya bully!

classicman · 03-29-2009, 12:34 PM

"The beatings will continue until morale improves."

Pie · 03-29-2009, 02:14 PM

Just send them to an after-school program where xoB can give them "a slap up side the head".

xoxoxoBruce · 03-29-2009, 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Pie

Just send them to an after-school program where xoB can give them "a slap up side the head".

Christ, do I have to do everything? Send them home to their parents, that's their job.

sugarpop · 03-29-2009, 11:34 PM

I agree with monster Pie. You are cute as hell.

Clodfobble · 03-30-2009, 12:39 AM

Word.

Ibby · 03-30-2009, 03:04 AM

Amen to that. Yer hawt.

DanaC · 03-30-2009, 06:57 AM

Well said Monster.

03-28-2009, 01:13 PM	#4
Clodfobble UNDER CONDITIONAL MITIGATION Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 20,012	Teachers can make it worse by trying to help, too. In fourth grade I was sitting alone on the playground, as was usual and fine with me, and the teacher came up and wanted to know why I wasn't playing with the other kids. Well, the short answer was they didn't like me and I was happier being alone. Oh no, she insisted, that can't be true. She marched me over to the large group of popular kids and ordered them to stop ostracizing me and "let" me play with them. Yeah, that didn't have any unintended consequences as soon as her back was turned again, no sirree. __________________ My book My other book My spirit animal

03-29-2009, 12:34 PM	#9
classicman barely disguised asshole, keeper of all that is holy. Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 23,401	"The beatings will continue until morale improves." __________________ "like strapping a pillow on a bull in a china shop" Bullitt

03-29-2009, 02:14 PM	#10
Pie Gone and done Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 4,808	Just send them to an after-school program where xoB can give them "a slap up side the head". __________________ per·son \ˈpər-sən\ (noun) - an ephemeral collection of small, irrational decisions The fun thing about evolution (and science in general) is that it happens whether you believe in it or not.

03-30-2009, 12:39 AM	#13
Clodfobble UNDER CONDITIONAL MITIGATION Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 20,012	Word. __________________ My book My other book My spirit animal

03-30-2009, 03:04 AM	#14
Ibby erika Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: "the high up north" Posts: 6,127	Amen to that. Yer hawt. __________________ not really back, you didn't see me, i was never here shhhhhh

03-28-2009, 12:52 PM	#2
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	In my situation the adults helped make me a target. A 6th grade teacher was an asshole to me, a 7th grade chemistry teacher slapped me hard across the face after I pushed my friend's books off the table, a 7th grade guidance counselor simply looked the other way. Adults don't protect victims just because they're adults. Sometimes they have the same bullying instincts as the kids do. I stabbed one of my bullyers with a pencil in 7th grade. It had no effect.

03-29-2009, 08:55 AM	#5
DanaC We have to go back, Kate! Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Yorkshire Posts: 25,964	You can only kick the bullies out if you have somewhere to kick them out to to. Chances are those are precisely the kids we most need to reach. Just kicking them out of the school isn't the answer. It stops them bullying the kids in that school but it does nothing to resolve the core issues. They're still kids. They're likely suffering a good deal of emotional or psychological pain and/or confusion. They're the ones who most need our attention and concern.

03-29-2009, 11:06 AM	#6
sugarpop Professor Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: the edge of the abyss Posts: 1,947	Well then, maybe there should be a special school for problem kids, so all the kids who are there to learn aren't distracted and abused while trying to get an education, and the bullies can get the special education and attention THEY need. I know we aren't dealing with the problem very well here in the states, at least in Savannah.

03-29-2009, 11:34 PM	#12
sugarpop Professor Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: the edge of the abyss Posts: 1,947	I agree with monster Pie. You are cute as hell.

03-30-2009, 06:57 AM	#15
DanaC We have to go back, Kate! Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Yorkshire Posts: 25,964	Well said Monster.

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