1/14/2004: Crappie New Year - Page 2

xoxoxoBruce · 01-14-2004, 07:54 PM

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Originally posted by jinx
If an animal didn't feel pain, what would be it's motivation to avoid being eaten?

The survival instinct isn't about avoiding pain, it's about survival.

Happy Monkey · 01-14-2004, 08:01 PM

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Originally posted by xoxoxoBruce
The survival instinct isn't about avoiding pain, it's about survival.

Pain is part of the survival instinct.

Undertoad · 01-14-2004, 08:03 PM

Whether or not they feel pain, they certainly have a less developed nervous system than mammals. If they can't really think about their pain at advanced levels, then I say it is less meaningful.

Some plants have systems that researchers say are analogous to pain. But the feeling of pain is not what makes it ok to eat the plants and not the researchers.

SteveDallas · 01-14-2004, 08:04 PM

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Originally posted by Undertoad

Some plants have systems that researchers say are analogous to pain. But the feeling of pain is not what makes it ok to eat the plants and not the researchers.

So what does make it OK?

Sun_Sparkz · 01-14-2004, 08:28 PM

The point is not weather it is ok or not to EAT fish. Its that is wrong to inflict harm to it weather or not your going to eat it. if you catch a fish you want to eat, then good. Kill it quick and get it over with. dont make its last few hours painful, confused, scared and distraught.

quzah · 01-14-2004, 09:09 PM

"It's ok to blow my head off with a shotgun because no one loves me any more." -- Kurt

Ok, so I don't know that was his exact final sentence... All in all, not someone I'd model my life after. Anyone who kills themselves is not someone I want to emulate. That being said, I believe there are a few scenarios where I'd want to be dead rather than alive.

Oh, and don't be surprised when that guy gets his head bit off by a shark later in life. Or maybe we'll get lucky and he'll drown next time he's out fishing. Karma.

Quzah.

wolf · 01-15-2004, 12:37 AM

How to tell the guys in the picture are Polish ...

Think about it.

It was 01-JAN.

In Poland.

Not a country known for it's lush greenery and tropical winters.

Wet Suit or NOT, they have to be motherfucking FREEZING.

JeepNGeorge · 01-15-2004, 02:43 AM

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Originally posted by Sun_Sparkz
The point is not weather it is ok or not to EAT fish. Its that is wrong to inflict harm to it weather or not your going to eat it. if you catch a fish you want to eat, then good. Kill it quick and get it over with. dont make its last few hours painful, confused, scared and distraught.

Maybe they did eat it and they were just pre-marinating it.

paranoid · 01-15-2004, 08:30 AM

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Originally posted by Sun_Sparkz

why do they struggle when you catch them? why do they hide from their predators in the weed? why do they try to escape their tank?

Instincts. Those fish that were more likely to struggle could better survive an encounter with a predator, which means they had better chances to mate and pass their genes to the next generation. Evolution in action.

The truth is there are many better things to do before you start an investigation about possible abuse of a half-dead fish by pouring champaign into its mouth. In most likelyhood, there are thousands of industrial enterprises in Poland that kill millions of fish every year through pollution. Unless you deal with these first, this police investigation would be just a PR stunt.

lumberjim · 01-15-2004, 08:35 AM

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Originally posted by Sun_Sparkz

"Its ok to eat fish cuz they dont have any feelings". Kurt Cobain. I wouldnt go taking nirvana lyrics as a guide to life.

why do they struggle when you catch them? why do they hide from their predators in the weed? why do they try to escape their tank?

Just cause they dont talk, doesnt mean they cant feel, think and hurt. same goes for any animal.

I have lived my entire life to nirvana lyrics. so far so good.
"I'm so happy, cuz today, I found my friends, they're in my head."

probably should have posted that in the commonly misheard song lyrics thread, huh?

blue · 01-15-2004, 08:45 AM

Only on the cellar could a thread be equal parts fish pain/nirvana lyrics.

tjennings · 01-15-2004, 11:40 AM

Did I see in an earlier post that pollock get other fish drunk?

Pi · 01-15-2004, 03:46 PM

2 Questions :
- Are we shure we're in Poland? Shouldn't it be Vodka and no champagne (and after all these french/freedom fries discussion how do US call champagne now?)
- If we really are in Poland I think the fish will enjoy some alcool and if not maybe it was clever enough to steel their purse

lumberjim · 01-15-2004, 03:49 PM

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Originally posted by Pi
2 Questions :
- Are we shure we're in Poland? Shouldn't it be Vodka and no champagne (and after all these french/freedom fries discussion how do US call champagne now?)
- If we really are in Poland I think the fish will enjoy some alcool and if not maybe it was clever enough to steel their purse

zippy, is that you?

Pi · 01-15-2004, 03:58 PM

No, just me, myself and I.

01-14-2004, 08:28 PM	#20
Sun_Sparkz Has Body Temperature Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: I come from a land downunder Posts: 1,105	The point is not weather it is ok or not to EAT fish. Its that is wrong to inflict harm to it weather or not your going to eat it. if you catch a fish you want to eat, then good. Kill it quick and get it over with. dont make its last few hours painful, confused, scared and distraught. __________________ We'll never be as young as we are right now

01-15-2004, 12:37 AM	#22
wolf lobber of scimitars Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Phila Burbs Posts: 20,774	How to tell the guys in the picture are Polish ... Think about it. It was 01-JAN. In Poland. Not a country known for it's lush greenery and tropical winters. Wet Suit or NOT, they have to be motherfucking FREEZING. __________________ wolf eht htiw og "Conspiracies are the norm, not the exception." --G. Edward Griffin The Creature from Jekyll Island High Priestess of the Church of the Whale Penis

01-15-2004, 08:45 AM	#26
blue Operations Operative Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Northern WI Posts: 739	Only on the cellar could a thread be equal parts fish pain/nirvana lyrics. __________________ If you spot a tornado, always remember to point at it, yell "tornado!", and run like hell.

01-15-2004, 11:40 AM	#27
tjennings Belt Conveyor Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Sioux City, IA Posts: 66	Did I see in an earlier post that pollock get other fish drunk? __________________ No, no, you're not thinking, you're just being logical. Niels Bohr, physicist (1885-1962)

01-14-2004, 08:03 PM	#18
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	Whether or not they feel pain, they certainly have a less developed nervous system than mammals. If they can't really think about their pain at advanced levels, then I say it is less meaningful. Some plants have systems that researchers say are analogous to pain. But the feeling of pain is not what makes it ok to eat the plants and not the researchers.

01-14-2004, 09:09 PM	#21
quzah Knight of the Oval-Shaped Conference Table Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 375	"It's ok to blow my head off with a shotgun because no one loves me any more." -- Kurt Ok, so I don't know that was his exact final sentence... All in all, not someone I'd model my life after. Anyone who kills themselves is not someone I want to emulate. That being said, I believe there are a few scenarios where I'd want to be dead rather than alive. Oh, and don't be surprised when that guy gets his head bit off by a shark later in life. Or maybe we'll get lucky and he'll drown next time he's out fishing. Karma. Quzah.

01-15-2004, 03:46 PM	#28
Pi desperate finder Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Luxembourg Posts: 437	2 Questions : - Are we shure we're in Poland? Shouldn't it be Vodka and no champagne (and after all these french/freedom fries discussion how do US call champagne now?) - If we really are in Poland I think the fish will enjoy some alcool and if not maybe it was clever enough to steel their purse

01-15-2004, 03:58 PM	#30
Pi desperate finder Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Luxembourg Posts: 437	No, just me, myself and I.

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