My Heart, My Fear, and the Power of the Mind - Page 2

zippyt · 01-30-2005, 09:36 AM

yea what bruce said , money ain't everything , if you arn't around to spend it what is it worth ?????

lumberjim · 01-30-2005, 02:47 PM

there has to be some sort of physical thing going on. sometimes i feel fine, and sometimes i get a little shaky. usually when i'm hungry. then i get sketchy and have to calm myself down consciously. might be blood sugar issues, or i might be interpreting the signals my body sends me differently because of the general unease that i feel. I keep thinking that as time goes by, I'll feel better. Right now, i'm weaning myself off of caffeine and trying to forget the fear i felt. I also think it happens more when i eat too many carbos. whatever it is, it's a pain in the ass.

On the other hand, sometimes i get a little tweaky when work gets really hectic. like on saturday, we sold 35 freaking cars ( a new record!) and i was there from 8am until 12:30am......one deal after another.....no breather.

what came first, the chicken or the egg?

Undertoad · 01-30-2005, 03:31 PM

If you're listening in to your body, you will find that hunger symptoms are very very much like anxiety symptoms. You might remember back to last year, when you were hungry but not anxious. You could go hours being hungry, but it never crossed over into anxiety and you could dismiss it at will. The problem is when it crosses over into anxiety and you can't just dismiss it.

Thus, BTW, one way for an ordinary human being to get fat. If you eat to avoid hunger because hunger seems like anxiety, pretty soon you are large.

Did I say you, I meant me.

lumberjim · 01-30-2005, 03:35 PM

thanks, UT, for your reassurance. and, oh, by the way, Elf, did you take a class in the wrong thing to say at the wrong time? I know you meant well, but damn. that was brutal.

lookout123 · 01-30-2005, 08:24 PM

i never thought of your diet here Jim. hypoglycemia (sp) = basically the opposite of diabetes. you can go from just fine to shaking, weak, etc... in no time flat. protein shakes level my dad out pretty well. just another idea.

elf · 01-31-2005, 01:06 PM

Sorry. It's my fatal flaw. If there is a wrong thing to say, I will say it, and at the worst possible moment, guaranteed.

I just would hate you to figure on one thing and have it turn out to be another and then be completely flummoxed by it. Better to be able to look at all the possibilities, no? The hubby was sure for awhile that it was "just stress" (is there such a thing as just stress?) But turned out that there was a physical cause. . . which was tripped off by being stressed.

Aww, hell. I should just shut up. Sorry.. I truly do wish you the very best of luck with your situation there. I know how scary it is. Just keep in mind that just about whatever it is that's got you on the fritz is more than likely something that can be fixed, one way or another. (yay, medical science!) I'll keep thinking positive thoughts at you, and hope that what efforts you're making now do pay off and well.

Shutting up now.

flippant · 01-31-2005, 01:15 PM

Hmmmm........curious.

elf · 01-31-2005, 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by flippant

Hmmmm........curious.

Did I stick my foot in my mouth again?

Beestie · 01-31-2005, 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by lumberjim

...oh, by the way, Elf, did you take a class in the wrong thing to say at the wrong time? I know you meant well, but damn. that was brutal.

[Scooby Doo] HuH? [/Scooby]

lookout123 · 01-31-2005, 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by elf

Did I stick my foot in my mouth again?

know you didn't. flippant, marichiko, "fill-in-your-own-alias-here" does cotton to LJ much and has chosen this thread to resurface.

flippant · 01-31-2005, 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by lookout123

know you didn't. flippant, marichiko, "fill-in-your-own-alias-here" does cotton to LJ much and has chosen this thread to resurface.

Did I really now? I chose this one to "resurface"?

And no you didn't elf, I was responding to the thread author.

Flippant

lookout123 · 01-31-2005, 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by flippant

Did I really now? I chose this one to "resurface"?
Flippant

uh, apparently. you haven't been around since the little game of musical names blew up. i would call that going under the radar. now you are back. i would refer to that as resurfacing. call it what you want.

either way, it answered elf's question. you weren't responding to her post, you were making a smart ass retort to LJ's health issue.

but since you're here now, let me ask you - can we get Mari back and get you to disappear?

flippant · 01-31-2005, 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by lookout123

uh, apparently. you haven't been around since the little game of musical names blew up. i would call that going under the radar. now you are back. i would refer to that as resurfacing. call it what you want.

either way, it answered elf's question. you weren't responding to her post, you were making a smart ass retort to LJ's health issue.

but since you're here now, let me ask you - can we get Mari back and get you to disappear?

I doubt you can get Mari back- as for the other- gladly.

Elspode · 01-31-2005, 04:29 PM

LJ, do you suffer from reflux frequently? Or even just frequent severe indigestion? If so, you might wish to go get scoped for the possibility of esophogeal damage or even a hiatal hernia.

01-31-2005, 05:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lookout123

uh, apparently. you haven't been around since the little game of musical names blew up. i would call that going under the radar. now you are back. i would refer to that as resurfacing. call it what you want.

either way, it answered elf's question. you weren't responding to her post, you were making a smart ass retort to LJ's health issue.

but since you're here now, let me ask you - can we get Mari back and get you to disappear?

Flippant PM'd me on another board we both frequent about this little exchange here. To answer your question, no, I don't go where I'm not welcome. UT blocked my user name. If I were to come back, it would have to be in disguise. Now wouldn't that be ironic? Returning by the very tactic I was accused of. I don't think so.

LJ, I hope that your problem turns out to be nothing. A visit to the doctor sounds in order.

01-30-2005, 09:36 AM	#16
zippyt LONG LIVE KING ZIPPY! per Feetz Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Arkansas Posts: 7,661	yea what bruce said , money ain't everything , if you arn't around to spend it what is it worth ????? __________________ "Success is getting what you want. Happiness is wanting what you get. " Brother Dave Gardner

01-30-2005, 02:47 PM	#17
lumberjim I can hear my ears Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 25,571	there has to be some sort of physical thing going on. sometimes i feel fine, and sometimes i get a little shaky. usually when i'm hungry. then i get sketchy and have to calm myself down consciously. might be blood sugar issues, or i might be interpreting the signals my body sends me differently because of the general unease that i feel. I keep thinking that as time goes by, I'll feel better. Right now, i'm weaning myself off of caffeine and trying to forget the fear i felt. I also think it happens more when i eat too many carbos. whatever it is, it's a pain in the ass. On the other hand, sometimes i get a little tweaky when work gets really hectic. like on saturday, we sold 35 freaking cars ( a new record!) and i was there from 8am until 12:30am......one deal after another.....no breather. what came first, the chicken or the egg? __________________ This body holding me reminds me of my own mortality Embrace this moment, remember We are eternal, all this pain is an illusion ~MJKeenan

01-30-2005, 03:35 PM	#19
lumberjim I can hear my ears Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 25,571	thanks, UT, for your reassurance. and, oh, by the way, Elf, did you take a class in the wrong thing to say at the wrong time? I know you meant well, but damn. that was brutal. __________________ This body holding me reminds me of my own mortality Embrace this moment, remember We are eternal, all this pain is an illusion ~MJKeenan

01-30-2005, 08:24 PM	#20
lookout123 changed his status to single Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Right behind you. No, the other side. Posts: 10,308	i never thought of your diet here Jim. hypoglycemia (sp) = basically the opposite of diabetes. you can go from just fine to shaking, weak, etc... in no time flat. protein shakes level my dad out pretty well. just another idea. __________________ Getting knocked down is no sin, it's not getting back up that's the sin

01-31-2005, 01:06 PM	#21
elf Yay! We're Dooomed! Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Mostly: New York. Most Recently: New Jersey. Currently: Colorado Posts: 214	Sorry. It's my fatal flaw. If there<i> is </i>a wrong thing to say, I <i>will </i>say it, and at the worst possible moment, guaranteed. I just would hate you to figure on one thing and have it turn out to be another and then be completely flummoxed by it. Better to be able to look at all the possibilities, no? The hubby was sure for awhile that it was "just stress" <small>(is there such a thing as <b>just</b> stress?)</small> But turned out that there was a physical cause. . . which was tripped off by being stressed. Aww, hell. I should just shut up. Sorry.. I truly do wish you the very best of luck with your situation there. I know how scary it is. Just keep in mind that just about whatever it is that's got you on the fritz is more than likely something that can be fixed, one way or another. (yay, medical science!) I'll keep thinking positive thoughts at you, and hope that what efforts you're making now do pay off and well. Shutting up now.

01-30-2005, 03:31 PM	#18
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	If you're listening in to your body, you will find that hunger symptoms are very very much like anxiety symptoms. You might remember back to last year, when you were hungry but not anxious. You could go hours being hungry, but it never crossed over into anxiety and you could dismiss it at will. The problem is when it crosses over into anxiety and you can't just dismiss it. Thus, BTW, one way for an ordinary human being to get fat. If you eat to avoid hunger because hunger seems like anxiety, pretty soon you are large. Did I say you, I meant me.

01-31-2005, 01:15 PM	#22
flippant shameless....so stop trying so hard....-me Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Colorado location* Posts: 215	Hmmmm........curious. __________________ - I know we won't meet again in the season of blossoms, And I won't sit quietly by drunk in my chamber- YU HSUAN- CHI Ninth Century, CHANG' AN

01-31-2005, 04:29 PM	#29
Elspode When Do I Get Virtual Unreality? Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Raytown, Missouri Posts: 12,719	LJ, do you suffer from reflux frequently? Or even just frequent severe indigestion? If so, you might wish to go get scoped for the possibility of esophogeal damage or even a hiatal hernia. __________________ "To those of you who are wearing ties, I think my dad would appreciate it if you took them off." - Robert Moog

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