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Old 04-29-2007, 04:07 PM   #76
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You obviously have issues and valid concerns about abuse of one another is modern society. BUT, don't dump it on Baldwin which is what this is about. I'm not going to martyr him for societies ills.
Those of us who are saying he is fully responsible for his behavior are not martyring him... the apologists are.
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Old 04-29-2007, 07:25 PM   #77
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Impossible, only attackers can martyr someone.

I hope you are not implying I'm an apologist. I can't, even if I wanted to, apologize for him.... that's between him and his kid. He doesn't owe me, you, or anybody but his kid, an apology.

I'm objecting to his being strung up by this kangaroo court.
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Old 04-30-2007, 07:50 PM   #78
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Only attackers can martyr someone? You have a very different definition of martyr than I, and most others, do.
There is no court, simply a reaction to something he did.
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Old 05-01-2007, 05:09 PM   #79
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How does one become a martyr without being attacked?
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Old 05-01-2007, 08:29 PM   #80
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That is one part of the equation, then you need a group stating that they were innocent, defenseless, someone special, or something else that does not apply in this case.
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Old 05-02-2007, 04:00 AM   #81
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Got it.
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