The Dallas Cowboys Update Thread - Page 17

classicman · 10-25-2011, 11:12 AM

Threadjack/

Quote:

"He's the last one in the building, he's the first one gone, late for meetings, late for practice," "They just basically have thrown up their hands and
said, 'We need to move on because that's not what we need in a quarterback."

Wow, the Vikings learned this in just 6 games - what took Andy 12 YEARS?
speaking of the Eagles Whip, any thoughts on this from the Vikings?
/end threadjack

W.HI.P · 10-25-2011, 01:04 PM

A change from old to young is a good thing.
It is the proper way to run a team.
The mistake was picking him up in the first place.
The Vikings need to draft high and close up some of the holes they have on both sides of the ball, especially their secondary in D.
If they do this, they should be competing by the 2013-2014 season.

classicman · 10-25-2011, 02:45 PM

agreed regarding the vikings, but ....

was McNabb always like that? I don't recall ever hearing that from anyone associated with the Eagles, even after he left.

Undertoad · 10-25-2011, 02:52 PM

No, McNabb was originally known for his hard work, drills in offseason, etc.

classicman · 10-25-2011, 03:09 PM

thats what I thought as well. I wonder what changed or when ...

W.HI.P · 10-26-2011, 12:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by classicman

thats what I thought as well. I wonder what changed or when ...

What UT said is accurate.
McNabb played some amazing football while in Philadelphia.
I recall a moment in his career where things changed.
I was watching the game.
He got sick on the field just before the snap (Happened more than once).
He was never the same again.
From that moment on, he never really came to 100% health.
The time comes in a career where you lower the gear.
You play it out and collect some cash on your way and then retire.
When a player is in this mode, it is best for the franchise for you to go elsewhere.

I am so upset that the organization didn't sacrifice last year in order to pick up Cam Newton.
Philadelphia's attack is groomed around Micheal Vick.
There is no comparing the 2 Quarter backs.
If Newton was in Phillie, we'd be looking at the Superbowl straight in the face right about now.
Huge huge mistake for the Eagles not going after this guy.

W.HI.P · 10-26-2011, 01:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by W.HI.P

The Dallas Cowboys are finally worthy of me mentioning them.
I've been an Eagles fan for the past 34 years, so it hurts me to say this.
The Cowboys are gonna win the NFC East.
They're gonna do it very easily, as there is no true competition.
My Eagles are well under par. (Said that prior to the season starting)
The Giants Defense is so weak, it doesn't matter how good Eli can be, the Giants are gonna lose!
The Redskins Defense is truly elite, but the attack is so weak, they are not worthy of mentioning.

The Dallas Cowboys on the other hand, have a good Defense, and a very good passing game.

Dez Bryant was a HUGE pick-up.
Austin is reliable, and Witten is about as good as a tight end can get.
So yeah, Tony's got some amazing weapons.
As long as he gets to keep them, it won't really matter how many times he screws up, the Cowboys are gonna win.

LJ, I told you i'd be the first to tell you when your team is good, so here i am!

Is LJ still around?

Undertoad · 10-26-2011, 07:52 AM

McNabb had about 4 in-game yacks, some of them during his prime. He took the game very seriously.

Undertoad · 10-26-2011, 07:55 AM

Oh LJ went through a name change. He's still here.

jimhelm · 10-26-2011, 08:23 AM

I am he

W.HI.P · 10-26-2011, 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by UT

McNabb had about 4 in-game yacks, some of them during his prime. He took the game very seriously.

Yes he did... I was taking about that one game 2-3 years ago, mid-season, when Garcia made his first string of games in his place, he's never played a whole game in form since....not a complete game anyways.

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Originally Posted by jimhelm

I am he

Your team is for real.
Dallas should finish 10-6 or 11-5 this season.
The only teams i see that could stand in your way to playing in the Superbowl is Atlanta or San Fransisco.
If it comes to playing one of those two, Your team will have a legitimate shot at winning.
The division is the key bet though right now, as i can't see how your team can lose it.
Even if you lose Sunday night against my Eagles, you'll still win it.
The division win pays 3.25 right now, and it is a certainty.
This is the first time in my life where i'll be cheering for the Cowboys in a Cowboys - Eagles match-up.

jimhelm · 10-26-2011, 02:21 PM

Assuming romo stays healthy and doesn't choke in key moments more often than he comes up big. Jerry jones was right when he said that the cowboys go as romo goes.

W.HI.P · 10-27-2011, 11:44 AM

Romo is a much better quarterback than even the Cowboys fans think.
The perception being fed out about his screw ups, seems to be blinding the fact that he's averaging almost 300 passing yards a game.
Sure, his additional weapons have a lot to do with it, but keep in mind, he's been making these yards against nickel and dimes mostly.
If Rookie DeMarco Murray's 250 rushing yards last week translates to 80-100 yards per game for the rest of the season, defenses that face the Cowboys are not gonna be able to nickel and dime them anymore, which will result in Romo shining even more.
Even if Romo was to be sidelined, i still calculate the cowboys ending the season around 9-7 based on the attack weapons and D.
That would still win them the division.

For those who believe that the Giants are gonna win this division, keep in mind that the Giants remaining schedule consists of traveling to New England San Fransisco, New Orleans, New York Jets, back and fourth with Dallas, in addition to hosting the Green Bay Packers.
So Yeah, the division can't be lost by the Cowboys.

classicman · 10-27-2011, 01:34 PM

I've heard talk that these three may be the new "triplets" from the old Aikman, Smith and Irvin. Perhaps it is premature, but its good sporting fodder for the pundits.

jimhelm · 10-27-2011, 02:55 PM

yeah... thing about that was that the triplets were only the triplets because of the supporting cast. Novacek, Johnston, and that O Line. Now this team has a better tight end in Witten, but the fullback is .. I don't even know his name..... and the O line is improving, but not stellar. The holes Murray was running through last week were pretty impressive. I almost want to scratch that game as an aberration because it was against the Rams... but then, who else has run like that against them this year?

10-25-2011, 01:04 PM	#242
W.HI.P Free Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Canada Posts: 1,513	A change from old to young is a good thing. It is the proper way to run a team. The mistake was picking him up in the first place. The Vikings need to draft high and close up some of the holes they have on both sides of the ball, especially their secondary in D. If they do this, they should be competing by the 2013-2014 season. __________________ pls stfu k thx

10-25-2011, 02:45 PM	#243
classicman barely disguised asshole, keeper of all that is holy. Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 23,401	agreed regarding the vikings, but .... was McNabb always like that? I don't recall ever hearing that from anyone associated with the Eagles, even after he left. __________________ "like strapping a pillow on a bull in a china shop" Bullitt

10-25-2011, 03:09 PM	#245
classicman barely disguised asshole, keeper of all that is holy. Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 23,401	thats what I thought as well. I wonder what changed or when ... __________________ "like strapping a pillow on a bull in a china shop" Bullitt

10-26-2011, 08:23 AM	#250
jimhelm a beautiful fool Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: 39.939705 Posts: 4,504	I am he __________________ There's a Shadow just behind me. Shrouding every step I take. Making every promise empty, pointing every finger at me. _tool

10-26-2011, 02:21 PM	#252
jimhelm a beautiful fool Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: 39.939705 Posts: 4,504	Assuming romo stays healthy and doesn't choke in key moments more often than he comes up big. Jerry jones was right when he said that the cowboys go as romo goes. __________________ There's a Shadow just behind me. Shrouding every step I take. Making every promise empty, pointing every finger at me. _tool

10-25-2011, 02:52 PM	#244
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	No, McNabb was originally known for his hard work, drills in offseason, etc.

10-26-2011, 07:52 AM	#248
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	McNabb had about 4 in-game yacks, some of them during his prime. He took the game very seriously.

10-26-2011, 07:55 AM	#249
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	Oh LJ went through a name change. He's still here.

10-27-2011, 11:44 AM	#253
W.HI.P Free Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Canada Posts: 1,513	Romo is a much better quarterback than even the Cowboys fans think. The perception being fed out about his screw ups, seems to be blinding the fact that he's averaging almost 300 passing yards a game. Sure, his additional weapons have a lot to do with it, but keep in mind, he's been making these yards against nickel and dimes mostly. If Rookie DeMarco Murray's 250 rushing yards last week translates to 80-100 yards per game for the rest of the season, defenses that face the Cowboys are not gonna be able to nickel and dime them anymore, which will result in Romo shining even more. Even if Romo was to be sidelined, i still calculate the cowboys ending the season around 9-7 based on the attack weapons and D. That would still win them the division. For those who believe that the Giants are gonna win this division, keep in mind that the Giants remaining schedule consists of traveling to New England San Fransisco, New Orleans, New York Jets, back and fourth with Dallas, in addition to hosting the Green Bay Packers. So Yeah, the division can't be lost by the Cowboys. __________________ pls stfu k thx

10-27-2011, 01:34 PM	#254
classicman barely disguised asshole, keeper of all that is holy. Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 23,401	I've heard talk that these three may be the new "triplets" from the old Aikman, Smith and Irvin. Perhaps it is premature, but its good sporting fodder for the pundits. __________________ "like strapping a pillow on a bull in a china shop" Bullitt

10-27-2011, 02:55 PM	#255
jimhelm a beautiful fool Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: 39.939705 Posts: 4,504	yeah... thing about that was that the triplets were only the triplets because of the supporting cast. Novacek, Johnston, and that O Line. Now this team has a better tight end in Witten, but the fullback is .. I don't even know his name..... and the O line is improving, but not stellar. The holes Murray was running through last week were pretty impressive. I almost want to scratch that game as an aberration because it was against the Rams... but then, who else has run like that against them this year? __________________ There's a Shadow just behind me. Shrouding every step I take. Making every promise empty, pointing every finger at me. _tool

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