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Old 09-22-2017, 07:02 PM   #166
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so if/when he says you need to pay return shipping, tell him that and if he won't then yes, leave negative feedback. Maybe once you have your refund. Or open up a complaint with ebay. Beest did that and it was pretty effective
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Old 09-22-2017, 07:04 PM   #167
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Why in the world would you order from a seller in Israel, with so much negative and neutral feedback, who is described as drop shipping from sources in the US (including Amazon)?

Do you just like playing Russian Roulette?

It's right in his feedback that others have had to go to eBay, through the resolution procedure, to get restitution from this seller.

Good luck.
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Old 09-22-2017, 07:07 PM   #168
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...hopefully he'll just ship you the rain fly
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Old 09-22-2017, 07:19 PM   #169
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hmm... the listing has now been removed....
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Old 09-22-2017, 07:28 PM   #170
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99.6% is an excellent rating
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Old 09-22-2017, 07:53 PM   #171
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The listing still appears for me, monster.

UT, I've said somewhere in here before that I don't use sellers below 99.8% without scrutinizing EVERYTHING. If the seller is drop shipping, that 99.6% rating actually belongs to the shippers. The eBay seller could be worthless if anything goes wrong. Middlemen often bail on customers. I hope that's not the case here.

Did you notice that in the seller's positive feedback there's no item descriptions, only the feedback narrative? Is that something sellers can elect to do?
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Old 09-22-2017, 07:57 PM   #172
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I dunno.

The item description is

GEERTOP 1-person 3-season 20D Ultralight Backpacking Tent For Camping Hiking NOT

There's the confusion. The word "NOT" means that the entire rest of the description is negated. And it was in all caps! You received, as accurately described, something that was NOT a GEERTOP 1-person 3-season 20D Ultralight Backpacking Tent For Camping Hiking. Judgement for seller.
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Old 09-22-2017, 08:26 PM   #173
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I did wonder about that "NOT" but when I went back to look again, listing was "removed" Sexo's may be archived? anyhoo, I refound (I think) by searching keywords, and the description here clearly implies to me that the fly is part of the deal.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/GEERTOP-1-pe...MAAOSwio1ZmuhD
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Old 09-22-2017, 09:04 PM   #174
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Au contraire monstaire,

The title is:

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GEERTOP 1-person 3-season 20D Ultralight Backpacking Tent For Camping Hiking NOT
It says tent. There's nothing about a fly in there.

One of the images includes the instructions for ordering:

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Name:  Items Included.jpg
Views: 33
Size:  16.9 KB
The narrative repeats the instructions with an admonishment:

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- What you will get is very different when you choose different variation ("Fly", "Fly+Inner tent", "Inner tent"). Please read product description carefully. ...
This was more than enough to make asking questions before buying prudent as to whether it's for only one component of a described system; or, the entire system.

Again, the listing is for a tent and NOT a fly + tent. Glatt's best shot at challenging the description may be in the "3-season" part of it. Is the tent really 3-season without the fly?
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Old 09-22-2017, 09:25 PM   #175
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hmm thanks, That did not come up for me, but I'm having a whole shitload of crappy computer/interweb issues tonight. Seeing that, I'm inclined to agree. But the original link is still showing as removed for me :/ I give up. I suggest you contact as not happy and if no response, leave negative feedback to the effect of misleading product description....? And maybe see what Ebay mediation has to say about it

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Old 09-22-2017, 09:32 PM   #176
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... There's the confusion. The word "NOT" means that the entire rest of the description is negated. ...
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I did wonder about that "NOT" ...
This seller has 45,663 items listed (gee, do ya think he might be drop shipping?). I'm sure a few titles and descriptions ended up being hack jobs.
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Old 09-22-2017, 11:20 PM   #177
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Old 09-22-2017, 11:51 PM   #178
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It may be a dead horse to you but certainly not to glatt.
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Old 09-23-2017, 12:01 AM   #179
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It may be a dead horse to you but certainly not to glatt.
If you read more carefully you would see I've been trying to get back on topic to help glatt, and then you could deduce that the dead horse pertained to the drift blaming him for his situation rather than the predicament. But then what would you have to be snarky about?


so a final attempt, glatt.... I think sexobon is right having seen that descriptive image he posted that didn't come up for me at the link you provided, he could easily claim that the product was as advertised. And the whole "NOT" thing is odd.

That said, it's extremely misleading and the worded description does seem to imply a fly is included rather than being an optional extra, so I think it is worth threatening bringing ebay in if you don't get satisfaction dealing with the seller directly. And definitely leave negative feedback if the seller does not refund with shipping.
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Old 09-23-2017, 12:16 AM   #180
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If you read more carefully you would see I've been trying to get back on topic to help glatt, and then you could deduce that the dead horse pertained to the drift blaming him for his situation rather than the predicament. But then what would you have to be snarky about?
A picture of beating a dead horse is clearly a shot at sexo, and a pretty piss poor way of getting the thing back on track. Try to put what you're thinking in your post for we clairvoyant deprived.
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