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Old 11-27-2009, 03:39 PM   #421
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I thought of this while writing a post where I admitted I have different opinions about the importance of freedom of speech since I started to post here.

Despite being to the left of what Americans would call liberal, I have certainly gained a better understanding of what we would call the far right. Here. Where I encounter real people.

I've realised decent people, who I like, can have beliefs I would previously have found extreme.

I've begun to understand the culture of a country that is so very different to mine. That the words "American" and "culture" can exist in harmony for example, and that some Europeans can be snobbish. Same with the realisation that Americans really cook. And even have more interest in good food than I do. McDonalds and Domino's are not necessarily every American's sole food provider.

On a more personal level, I learned that people struggle with all sorts of issues, and what I perceived as a world where everyone was okay except for me was a self-pitying fabrication. Everyday people have huge issues underneath the surface. Children, self-esteem, depression, work, family trouble. Success is how you handle it, not where you appear to be. And sometimes you just don't handle it and that is okay too.

And that there is a world where you can use three and four syllable words and not get blank looks. Well - it's the internet, you can't see them anyway. But there is a place where you can write a paeon to a dead politician in one thread, then talk about having sparkle dust on your boobs in the next. Those were my first posts as I remember. I knew I was home.

BTW - I wasn't anti-American before I came here. I was just lacking in information.

Hope this isn't too Hallmark.
I just wanted to get it off my sparkle-dusted chest
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Old 12-02-2009, 08:01 PM   #422
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It doesn't matter where the war is, what the war is about, or who is in power when it happens. The other side will do nothing but stand there and throw stones. American politics knows no other way to function. It is simply not possible for us to function any other way. Shit, at this point, if the Democrats stood up and said "You know, maybe universal health care isn't such a good idea after all", the Republicans would immediately stand up and shout how the Dems didn't care about people.

One side takes a position, the other side shoots it down. The topic is irrelevant.
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Old 12-04-2009, 11:27 AM   #423
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Excellent insight, could be said about most TV news.

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TV tabloidism and their goal is to quickly and cheaply develop exciting and controversial stories, not to dig for the truth. Did they make a follow-up call to Johns Hopkins? ƒuck no, that's the boring part! We don't need to understand the story, just to be alarmed by pretty girl who can only walk backwards. That's how you score ratings amongst the people who watch syndicated tabloid TV in early nighttime. A self-selecting audience of the gullible.
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Old 01-05-2010, 09:12 AM   #424
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Okay, I've had a moment to think about this, and now I'm going to try to respond intelligently.

I...*we*...all live in a society where the norm has become accusation, finger pointing and character assassination. We live in a society where *one side* claims to own the keys to all things Right, Good and True. This One Right Side, while doing everything humanly (and often, religiously) possible to besmirch anyone who doesn't fall into lockstep with them, also makes claims that their *spirituality* is being suppressed - that their *religious freedom* is being subdued...by "evil forces". Yes, *evil*. Not misguided. Not disagreeable. *Evil*. As in, "In league with Satan". As in, "you disagree with us and our motives, therefore you are minions of Darkness." Egad.

Meanwhile, the "other side", being equally inept and misguided, spends all it's time trying to tear down other perfectly functional standards of public legality because it might be abused or inflated by the "other side" to further restrict processes that the "other side" doesn't yet want put down.

What I, as a thinking, ostensibly free, American, don't like is this whole notion of "all or nothing". I especially dislike politics being furthered through the addition of Damnation and Hellfire as a lever. Yes, we have moral issues that need to be sorted out in this country. Yes, there are things that were better in the God-fearing 50's than they are now. There are also things that are much better now (anyone remember when it was okay to hate black people because God didn't like 'em either?).

In summary, I'd like to say that injecting (insert your religious path here) and holding it up as the be-all, end-all of Life on Earth is *never* the right answer, and as long as anyone tries to shove it down my throat and call me a moron for not swallowing it, I'm going to complain.
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Old 01-12-2010, 10:40 AM   #425
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If you want to know where the exact point is where you become an asshole in your post it is marked above.

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Old 04-08-2010, 10:21 AM   #426
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Police have arrested two women after they tried to take the body of a dead relative onto a plane at Liverpool John Lennon Airport.

Staff became suspicious when the women tried to check in the man, who was wearing sunglasses, for a flight to Berlin on Saturday.
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It's obvious, surely? They were trying to get him on board as carrion baggage.
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Old 04-28-2010, 04:56 PM   #427
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You have a perspective that is very different than mine. Thats one of the things I love about interacting here. The diversity.
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Old 04-28-2010, 06:05 PM   #428
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Old 05-03-2010, 01:52 PM   #429
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xoxoxobruce telling it like it is
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Old 05-06-2010, 09:52 AM   #430
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Well said by Glatt.

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I think there should be some sort of system where people like this are charged with the crime, and the police get to show the evidence they have that these guys did it, and these guys get a chance to show it wasn't actually them, and then someone, or a group of people act as a sort of referee where they decide if they are pretty sure that the guy did it or not. And then they look at how bad the thing was that the guy did, and then they look at what the rules are for the punishments you give for the kind of bad thing these guys did, and then the referee(s) decide on the punishment, working within those rules. And I think it should be a calm and thoughtful process where these referee(s) use their minds. Oh, and these referees, they shouldn't be a bunch of snooty rich people. They should be regular people.
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Old 06-10-2010, 02:39 PM   #431
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I thank you Griff for this beautiful poem and for another of your consistently worthy observations about our world. I hope you never stop sharing with us.

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Revenge

At times ... I wish
I could meet in a duel
the man who killed my father
and razed our home,
expelling me
into
a narrow country.

And if he killed me,
I’d rest at last,
and if I were ready—
I would take my revenge!

*

But if it came to light,
when my rival appeared,
that he had a mother
waiting for him,
or a father who’d put
his right hand over
the heart’s place in his chest
whenever his son was late
even by just a quarter-hour
for a meeting they’d set—
then I would not kill him,
even if I could.

*

Likewise ... I
would not murder him
if it were soon made clear
that he had a brother or sisters
who loved him and constantly longed to see him.
Or if he had a wife to greet him
and children who
couldn’t bear his absence
and whom his gifts would thrill.
Or if he had
friends or companions,
neighbors he knew
or allies from prison
or a hospital room,
or classmates from his school...
asking about him
and sending him regards.

*

But if he turned
out to be on his own—
cut off like a branch from a tree—
without a mother or father,
with neither a brother nor sister,
wifeless, without a child,
and without kin or neighbors or friends,
colleagues or companions,
then I’d add not a thing to his pain
within that aloneness—
not the torment of death,
and not the sorrow of passing away.
Instead I’d be content
to ignore him when I passed him by
on the street—as I
convinced myself
that paying him no attention
in itself was a kind of revenge.

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Old 06-20-2010, 11:13 PM   #432
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UT and Shaw rewrote the theme of the Beverly Hillbillies just for Zip, and did a dern good job.

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Well a-one day Zip was a-shootin at some food
And up from the ground come a bubblin' poo

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Well the next thing you know ol' zip's a millionaire
The Cellar folk said "ZIP, move away from there."
They said Pennsylvania is the place you oughta be
So he loaded up his pool and he moved right to Philly.
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Burbs, that is
Dumb neighbors... bad traffic...
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Old 06-23-2010, 01:24 AM   #433
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Nothing is better than this:

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Out of nowhere this evening, my son gave me a hug and said, "I love you" for the first time ever.
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Old 06-23-2010, 08:31 AM   #434
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HOORAH! Good one V
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Old 06-23-2010, 03:39 PM   #435
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mrs L and I were talking about that one last night. we've come to the conclusion that the assholes can pretty much slash and burn the cellar on a regular basis but posts like clodfobble's are what makes the cellar continue to grow.

Happy for you fobble family.
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