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Old 08-10-2006, 06:38 AM   #46
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Unlike the current administration, which has determined that no one should have any for our own good?
Is the liberal cause well-served by such defensive, mindless hyperbole every time Clinton is mentioned? "Yeah, Clinton, but Everybody Knows Bush is Satan Incarnate" is not a very convincing argument unless you're already a cult member.
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Old 08-10-2006, 06:49 AM   #47
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UG mentioned the real deal with Clinton and Elspode noted w's similar contempt for civili liberties, where do you find any mindless hyperbole?
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Old 08-10-2006, 07:46 AM   #48
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Is neutral OK?

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Old 08-10-2006, 08:23 AM   #49
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...where do you find any mindless hyperbole?
"no one should have any"...demonstrating that after all these years, the word that follows "knee-jerk" is still "liberal".
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Old 08-10-2006, 08:26 AM   #50
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demonstrating that after all these years, the word that follows "knee-jerk" is still "liberal".
and the word that follows "conservative" is simply "jerk"
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Old 08-10-2006, 08:40 AM   #51
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"no one should have any"...demonstrating that after all these years, the word that follows "knee-jerk" is still "liberal".
That is hyperbole not mindless hyperbole. Bush has given his detracters just as many reasons to fear his administration as Clinton ever did. They are two men cut from the same statist cloth.
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Old 08-10-2006, 08:50 AM   #52
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That is hyperbole not mindless hyperbole.
Oh, forgive me. It's clearly calm, well-considered hyperbole that only sounds hysterical. That said, the rest of the comment (including the question that is rhetorical only because I don't expect an answer) stands.
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Old 08-10-2006, 09:14 AM   #53
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The downside of being a "progressive" is you end up beliveing their propaganda.
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...unless you're already a cult member.
Methinks Maggie sees anyone who criticizes W. as slavish, unthinking dupes. Could our country have been more duped than we've been by the current administration? Really.
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Old 08-10-2006, 10:10 AM   #54
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The problem is...it doesn't matter who the president is, republican or democrat...he'll never be good enough for EVERYONE...or make the right decisions to benefit EVERYONE. People gotta bitch about something, otherwise, they have nothing else to do.
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Old 08-10-2006, 10:31 AM   #55
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Could our country have been more duped than we've been by the current administration?
Yes.
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Old 08-10-2006, 11:14 AM   #56
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Is ^^^that^^^ like in Animal Farm, where the pigs convince you that your own memory is faulty?
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Old 08-10-2006, 11:36 AM   #57
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...to vilify as immoral a bold and noble enterprise and to brand as an ignominious defeat what is proving itself more and more every day to be a victory of American arms and a vindication of American ideals.

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Old 08-10-2006, 12:17 PM   #58
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Is ^^^that^^^ like in Animal Farm, where the pigs convince you that your own memory is faulty?
Which narrative you think is The Big Lie pretty much determines who you think those pigs are.
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Old 08-10-2006, 12:19 PM   #59
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Which narrative you think is The Big Lie pretty much determines who you think those pigs are.
In a nutshell: the primary source of entertainment for an oberver of "us versus them" politics.
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Old 08-10-2006, 01:05 PM   #60
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The Dems want our lives and money, the Reps want our souls and money. Not a real big difference there.

I can still deal better with a president who has a loose Johnson than a President who is waging war to line the pockets of his cronies and calling it protecting the country.

Saddam is done, hand the shithole over to its people and let 'em duke it out. I think we've made our point by now. Or does anyone reasonably think that we are safer now that we've whipped the Arab world into a complete frenzy?

I suppose the fact that we found all those WMDs has made us a little safer, but...what? There weren't any? Okay, well, at least we've nailed the people responsible for 9-11...what? We haven't?

Well, its good to kill and be killed anyway. And Maggie...how well received would a person with your history be at the next White House dinner? Isn't this the administration whose adherents are doing everything they can to deprive people like you of your rights? Isn't it people like me who are calling that kind of prejudice and immoral legislation bullshit?
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