No Sex Please,

[Shawnee123]

I'd do Steve Buscemi in a heartbeat. He's a different kind of "not conventionally good looking." Or Benicio Del Toro. That dude up thar looks like a pasty half-woman.

[Sheldonrs]

People spend way to much time judging faces. As a gay man, one thing I've learned is, if you fuck 'em in the ass, it doesn't matter if they even HAVE a face.
But if you fuck 'em in the face, you're shit out of luck.

[jinx]

Originally Posted by classicman

You are again confusing their beliefs with the institution. And to say its "so many" seems rather disingenuous. Singling them out when it was already clearly shown that is not a situation limited to just Catholics.

Ya, but see, what you don't understand about those other churches is excuse, excuse, justification, and redirection. I'm a little disappointed in you...

[Pie]

Originally Posted by Sheldonrs

People spend way to much time judging faces. As a gay man, one thing I've learned is, if you fuck 'em in the ass, it doesn't matter if they even HAVE a face.
But if you fuck 'em in the face, you're shit out of luck.

But, you see, you wake up next to the face. Unless you're sleeping with your face in his butt.

Or sneak out at 2am, but I digress.

[classicman]

Just like politicians, they are all the same. I'm a lot more tainted than you think.

[Gravdigr]

Originally Posted by Shawnee123

They love being Catholic, molesting priests and hypocrisy and all..

Whoever molested a priest?

Originally Posted by Sundae Girl

...I generally fancy "ugly" or "unconventional" men...

Hi, my name's Gravdigr. I like walks on the beach, kittehs, pink hair, and women who like ugly, unconventional men...

Ugly & unconventional...I just may be your dream man!

[Gravdigr]

Originally Posted by classicman

Just like politicians, they are all the same. I'm a lot more tainted than you think.

Leave your taint outta this.

[Shawnee123]

Originally Posted by Sheldonrs

People spend way to much time judging faces. As a gay man, one thing I've learned is, if you fuck 'em in the ass, it doesn't matter if they even HAVE a face.
But if you fuck 'em in the face, you're shit out of luck.

Originally Posted by Pie

But, you see, you wake up next to the face. Unless you're sleeping with your face in his butt.

Or sneak out at 2am, but I digress.

I don't do those kinds of scenes either.

I'll give you everything, but I have to reallllllllllllllly like you, and that includes the face part of you. You don't have to be a beauty, just a real and honest person with a ton of personality and smarts. And by "you" I mean "not you." And by "not you" I mean "no one here specifically so don't be offended."

Originally Posted by Gravdigr

Whoever molested a priest?

I did. No not really. I really must have my brain looked at.

[Gravdigr]

Originally Posted by Pie

Unless you're sleeping with your face in his butt.

Rimjob. --shot, rimshot, yeah that's it.

[Sheldonrs]

Originally Posted by Pie

But, you see, you wake up next to the face. Unless you're sleeping with your face in his butt.

Or sneak out at 2am, but I digress.

I get home delivery and I don't let the leftovers stay overnight.

[Sundae]

Originally Posted by jinx

Ya, but see, what you don't understand about those other churches is excuse, excuse, justification, and redirection. I'm a little disappointed in you...

I have to say I'm a little bit disappointed in you, Jinx. Not enough not to love you and all that, just enough for a little sadness to creep in.

I'm sure it's because I was raised Catholic.
If I'd been raised atheist I'd prbably be anti-Catholic anyway, What with the birth control thing and all. I just knew so many decent devout people growing up. And of course grew up under the IRA threat. We had to be whiter than white to prove we weren't terrorists ourselves. No, really - Grandad's surname is Doyle - it was an issue.

I've said before, I am a dyed in the wool atheiest. Nothing short of a personal vision (and that's likely to be drug-induced) will get me to believe in God.

But I do believe that individual people have better ideals than those they are supposed to represent. I would never accuse members of this forum of torture. And I'm sure they would not accuse me - but it has happened. I would not call every single American here a racist because of the Ku Klux Klan, and I would hope no-one would tar me with the same brush as the BNP.

Ha.
I've just defended a religion I don't believe in, while arguing with Dana about another religion I don't believe in. Sigh.

[jinx]

I'm sure it's because I was raised Catholic.

Yes, I'm sure it is too.
I think though, that if you stayed on point long enough, instead of trying to make it about everything else you can possibly think of, you'd have to agree there is no excuse.

[Shawnee123]

I was raised Catholic. 1st grade to 6th grade, Catholic Elementary school. 7th and 8th grade, CCD. 9th grade, rents say it's now up to me. Buh-bye church. I don't trust you. I laid awake at night convinced I would writhe in eternal hell-fire because I looked up an answer on my homework or something. Who needs subjugation by fear?

[Sundae]

Originally Posted by jinx

Yes, I'm sure it is too.
I think though, that if you stayed on point long enough, instead of trying to make it about everything else you can possibly think of, you'd have to agree there is no excuse.

I think it's because very single Catholic person I know is anti-paedophilia. There is no excuse for it; no-one I know tries to suggest there is any excuse for it; the priests I know (including my Godfather and our family priest for years, who is still a friend of the family) would not condone it...

What has happened is awful. I'm not suggesting otherwise. I do try to stay on point, but when people suggest that being Catholic is ticking a box to say paedos are okay, I use my personal experience to suggest otherwise, or draw comparisons so that people raised outside the Catholic church can understand.

You (by your own admission) can't understand how anyone could continue to be a Catholic after the recent scandals. I, as an atheist, can. I'm pretty sure you know this is not a personal attack. But of course I will defend my family and their friends; knowing as I do that something like paedophilia is anathema to them.

I don't have to share their faith to defend them - if anything I'd think it would clear my eyes.

[jinx]

Originally Posted by Sundae Girl

I think it's because very single Catholic person I know is anti-paedophilia. There is no excuse for it; no-one I know tries to suggest there is any excuse for it; the priests I know (including my Godfather and our family priest for years, who is still a friend of the family) would not condone it...

This is where we differ...
I think showing up every week, going thru the rituals, and handing out financial support equates to saying "Keep up the good work".
I'm not trying to make it personal, I know quite a few current and ex-catholics myself, but it doesn't change how I feel.