"I can't Hate Donald Trump" - Page 3

classicman · 03-05-2016, 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by footfootfoot

The only thing more terrifying than Trump as president would be Hillary as president.

YES YES YES!!! That vile woman has no interest in anyone or anything other than her own power.

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Originally Posted by DanaC

I do think the fact she is female is a factor.

To some perhaps, but to the vast majority its her lack of character and her repeated bullshit from the time of white water to the present. She hasn't made a good decision since saying yes to Bill. Without him and his name she would be NOTHING.

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Originally Posted by Pamela

Socialism/communism is not new at all.

Neither has worked anywhere they have been tried.

here here ...

sexobon · 03-05-2016, 12:37 PM

Won't someone please think about the First Spouse we'll have to look at for the next 4-8 years!

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Happy Monkey · 03-05-2016, 12:37 PM

People keep listing reasons to dislike Hillary, where Trump is even more so.

BigV · 03-05-2016, 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Pamela

Socialism/communism is not new at all.

Neither has worked anywhere they have been tried.

Come on, how is this relevant to our current presidential election cycle? Serious, honest question.

xoxoxoBruce · 03-05-2016, 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by sexobon

Won't someone please think about the First Spouse we'll have to look at for the next 4-8 years!

Um, third spouse for Trump.

Pamela · 03-05-2016, 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by BigV

Come on, how is this relevant to our current presidential election cycle? Serious, honest question.

You might have noticed that we have a true blue, dyed-in-the-wool socialist running for President. And you will have a tough time convincing me that the Democratic party is not already there with the GOPe flirting with them from outside the window.

xoxoxoBruce · 03-05-2016, 11:49 PM

Oh, who's a "true blue, dyed-in-the-wool socialist"? Can't be Clinton, Wall Street/Big Banks don't pay socialists to give speeches. Must be Bernie. So Bernie's a "true blue, dyed-in-the-wool socialist"? No wonder the 1% hate him, he might delay their march to 1890.

sexobon · 03-06-2016, 01:42 AM

Sheesh, she doesn't hate Donald Trump in a thread titled "I can't Hate Donald Trump" that you started. Then, just because she says something about somebody else, you're all "Oh, who's a..., Can't be..., Must be..., So..., and No wonder...

Fussy...fussy...fussy!

Spexxvet · 03-07-2016, 08:00 AM

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Originally Posted by DanaC

Sanders would have been a better candidate.

Hopefully "will be", not "would have been".

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Originally Posted by Pamela

Socialism/communism is not new at all.

Neither has worked anywhere they have been tried.

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Originally Posted by Pamela

You might have noticed that we have a true blue, dyed-in-the-wool socialist running for President. And you will have a tough time convincing me that the Democratic party is not already there with the GOPe flirting with them from outside the window.

Supporting the middle class is NOT socialism. You've drunk the Kool Aid, Pam.

Clodfobble · 03-07-2016, 08:34 AM

Whether or not you agree with Sanders or believe that he's more moderate in reality, it is a fact that Bernie himself says that he is an avowed socialist. Those are his own words.

glatt · 03-07-2016, 09:07 AM

I've heard him refer to himself as a "democratic socialist." I don't recall ever hearing him say he was a plain old "socialist." Not saying he hasn't, just that I've never seen it.

I think in the pigeonholes of a lot of people's minds, the word "socialist" fits in the same slot as "communist" or "marxist." And "democratic socialist" gets shorted to just "socialist" and dumped in there as well. I see a need for education on the meaning of the different words. But these are somewhat complicated ideas that take more explaining than can fit on a captioned facebook picture. I'm not volunteering to do the explaining, because I don't know the subject well enough to teach it. And as a rule, people resent being lectured.

Over-simplified slogans seem to resonate, and I think "Bernie wants to send my kids to college while [insert opponent here] wants to send them to war." is a decent one.

xoxoxoBruce · 03-07-2016, 09:42 AM

"I don't think that means what you think it means", would be appropriate in this election. I think a certain label means X, you think a certain label means Y, neither of us knows what a candidate thinks it means.

DanaC · 03-07-2016, 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by glatt

I think in the pigeonholes of a lot of people's minds, the word "socialist" fits in the same slot as "communist" or "marxist." And "democratic socialist" gets shorted to just "socialist" and dumped in there as well. .

This drives me round the bend. The idea that Bernie Sanders is somehow on the same political page as the old soviet union is just crazy.

Clodfobble · 03-07-2016, 01:53 PM

Sure, but is the solution for him to be a representative for "see, 'socialism' isn't a bad word," or "no no no, I'm nothing like you're thinking, I'm this other term over here."

And in case anyone hasn't yet seen John Oliver's recent take on it:

xoxoxoBruce · 03-07-2016, 03:20 PM

Yeah but (Rule #1, Always precede with a yeah but) Oliver is a ferriner, he doesn't understand American values, nor the shorthand we use to miscommunicate.

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03-05-2016, 11:49 PM	#37
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	Oh, who's a "true blue, dyed-in-the-wool socialist"? Can't be Clinton, Wall Street/Big Banks don't pay socialists to give speeches. Must be Bernie. So Bernie's a "true blue, dyed-in-the-wool socialist"? No wonder the 1% hate him, he might delay their march to 1890. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

03-07-2016, 08:34 AM	#40
Clodfobble UNDER CONDITIONAL MITIGATION Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 20,012	Whether or not you agree with Sanders or believe that he's more moderate in reality, it is a fact that Bernie himself says that he is an avowed socialist. Those are his own words. __________________ My book My other book My spirit animal

03-07-2016, 09:42 AM	#42
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	"I don't think that means what you think it means", would be appropriate in this election. I think a certain label means X, you think a certain label means Y, neither of us knows what a candidate thinks it means. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

03-07-2016, 01:53 PM	#44
Clodfobble UNDER CONDITIONAL MITIGATION Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 20,012	Sure, but is the solution for him to be a representative for "see, 'socialism' isn't a bad word," or "no no no, I'm nothing like you're thinking, I'm this other term over here." And in case anyone hasn't yet seen John Oliver's recent take on it: __________________ My book My other book My spirit animal

03-05-2016, 12:37 PM	#32
sexobon I love it when a plan comes together. Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 9,793	Won't someone please think about the First Spouse we'll have to look at for the next 4-8 years!

03-06-2016, 01:42 AM	#38
sexobon I love it when a plan comes together. Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 9,793	Sheesh, she doesn't hate Donald Trump in a thread titled "I can't Hate Donald Trump" that you started. Then, just because she says something about somebody else, you're all "Oh, who's a..., Can't be..., Must be..., So..., and No wonder... Fussy...fussy...fussy!

03-07-2016, 09:07 AM	#41
glatt ™ Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 27,717	I've heard him refer to himself as a "democratic socialist." I don't recall ever hearing him say he was a plain old "socialist." Not saying he hasn't, just that I've never seen it. I think in the pigeonholes of a lot of people's minds, the word "socialist" fits in the same slot as "communist" or "marxist." And "democratic socialist" gets shorted to just "socialist" and dumped in there as well. I see a need for education on the meaning of the different words. But these are somewhat complicated ideas that take more explaining than can fit on a captioned facebook picture. I'm not volunteering to do the explaining, because I don't know the subject well enough to teach it. And as a rule, people resent being lectured. Over-simplified slogans seem to resonate, and I think "Bernie wants to send my kids to college while [insert opponent here] wants to send them to war." is a decent one.

03-07-2016, 03:20 PM	#45
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	Yeah but (Rule #1, Always precede with a yeah but) Oliver is a ferriner, he doesn't understand American values, nor the shorthand we use to miscommunicate. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

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