Orlando

Griff · 06-12-2016, 11:47 AM

Fuck.

xoxoxoBruce · 06-12-2016, 11:50 AM

This will put the haters in a tizzy. It was a Raghead... but they were fags... but it was a Raghead... but they were fags... Hopefully their heads will explode.

Undertoad · 06-12-2016, 12:31 PM

The haters are thinking the non-haters are in a tizzy! I read this on a comments section:

"They love LGBTs and Islam, this truly a PC dilemma"

Griff · 06-12-2016, 01:13 PM

Seems like hate will win the day either way. Hate the gun, hate the gunman, hate the religion, hate the West, hate the East, hate the desert, hate all religion, hate the humans.

Gravdigr · 06-12-2016, 01:28 PM

The solution is simple, Griff.

Don't let hate rule the day. You only hear bad news. And there's more than bad news out there. There's tons of good news. But good news doesn't sell papers or airtime.

We shouldn't let the bastards wear us down.

Griff · 06-12-2016, 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Gravdigr

Don't let hate rule the day.

amen

sexobon · 06-12-2016, 02:15 PM

Now Orlando will have to pass a city ordinance requiring bouncers to have counterterrorist training.

Dr. Zaius · 06-12-2016, 04:41 PM

This had nothing to do with religion,” the gunman’s father said. However, he also claimed his son got very angry when he saw two men kissing in downtown Miami recently.

Act of terror and a hate crime rolled into one. Not that there is much difference to the victims.

The real frustration in these horrible events is that you know there's virtually zero you can do about it after the fact, and probably precious little you could have done before it. The shooter is dead. The people he committed this atrocity in the name of are amorphous, international, and to the extent you can identify them, distant and fungible. Kill one ISIS social media recruiter and two more mindless zealots take his place.

sexobon · 06-12-2016, 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr. Zaius

... The real frustration in these horrible events is that you know there's virtually zero you can do about it after the fact, and probably precious little you could have done before it. ...

That's why the time for people to do something about it is as it's happening; but, the indications are that all they would do was run.

xoxoxoBruce · 06-12-2016, 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr. Zaius

Act of terror and a hate crime rolled into one. Not that there is much difference to the victims.

I don't want to get into semantics, but
isn't terrorism a hate crime, hate motivated?

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Originally Posted by sexobon

That's why the time for people to do something about it is as it's happening; but, the indications are that all they would do was run.

Unarmed, untrained, unprepared, best to GTFO.

sexobon · 06-12-2016, 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce

... Unarmed, untrained, unprepared, best to GTFO.

If you're not already concealed; or, behind cover when the shit goes down, it's best to close and destroy. If you have no route of egress, it's best to attack before discovered. You can't outrun the bullets. Just because you're shot doesn't mean you're going to die. Just because you're going to die doesn't mean you can't take the attacker out with you and save others. Where there's no such mindset, casualties are maximized. When that happens I feel it's a shame; but, I don't dwell on it.

xoxoxoBruce · 06-12-2016, 06:54 PM

"... take the attacker out with you..." I don't think a stern look, with crossed arms and a tapping toe would be an effective deterrent. There's a difference between making a sacrifice and being a damn fool. There's no way I can stop this guy, so making a banzai charge just makes his job easier. YMMV.

sexobon · 06-12-2016, 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce

... There's no way I can stop this guy, so making a banzai charge just makes his job easier. YMMV.

You bet your bippy it does. That's because I hang out with people of another mindset, people who can act in consonance.

Gravdigr · 06-12-2016, 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce

There's no way I can stop this guy, so making a banzai charge just makes his job easier.

But, if all of you, or ten of you, or even five of you charge him yelling "Banzai!!!".......

xoxoxoBruce · 06-12-2016, 09:14 PM

Exactly, you're trained, you hang with trained people. When you look at a problem, you have a completely different set of tools in your bag you can use for a solution. Most people don't have those tools so they have a shorter list of reasonable options. I know my limitations, and they're not mental, they're physical.

06-12-2016, 11:47 AM	#1
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06-12-2016, 11:50 AM	#2
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	This will put the haters in a tizzy. It was a Raghead... but they were fags... but it was a Raghead... but they were fags... Hopefully their heads will explode. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

06-12-2016, 01:13 PM	#4
Griff still says videotape Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 26,813	Seems like hate will win the day either way. Hate the gun, hate the gunman, hate the religion, hate the West, hate the East, hate the desert, hate all religion, hate the humans. __________________ If you would only recognize that life is hard, things would be so much easier for you. - Louis D. Brandeis

06-12-2016, 01:28 PM	#5
Gravdigr The Un-Tuckian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: South Central...KY that is Posts: 39,517	The solution is simple, Griff. Don't let hate rule the day. You only hear bad news. And there's more than bad news out there. There's tons of good news. But good news doesn't sell papers or airtime. We shouldn't let the bastards wear us down. __________________ These statements have not been evaluated by the FDA, EPA, FBI, DEA, CDC, or FDIC. These statements are not intended to diagnose, cause, treat, cure, or prevent any disease. If you feel you have been harmed/offended by, or, disagree with any of the above statements or images, please feel free to fuck right off.

06-12-2016, 04:41 PM	#8
Dr. Zaius Superior Inhabitant Join Date: May 2003 Location: Ape City Posts: 73	This had nothing to do with religion,” the gunman’s father said. However, he also claimed his son got very angry when he saw two men kissing in downtown Miami recently. Act of terror and a hate crime rolled into one. Not that there is much difference to the victims. The real frustration in these horrible events is that you know there's virtually zero you can do about it after the fact, and probably precious little you could have done before it. The shooter is dead. The people he committed this atrocity in the name of are amorphous, international, and to the extent you can identify them, distant and fungible. Kill one ISIS social media recruiter and two more mindless zealots take his place. __________________ Defender of the Faith

06-12-2016, 12:31 PM	#3
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	The haters are thinking the non-haters are in a tizzy! I read this on a comments section: "They love LGBTs and Islam, this truly a PC dilemma"

06-12-2016, 02:15 PM	#7
sexobon I love it when a plan comes together. Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 9,793	Now Orlando will have to pass a city ordinance requiring bouncers to have counterterrorist training.

06-12-2016, 06:54 PM	#12
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	"... take the attacker out with you..." I don't think a stern look, with crossed arms and a tapping toe would be an effective deterrent. There's a difference between making a sacrifice and being a damn fool. There's no way I can stop this guy, so making a banzai charge just makes his job easier. YMMV. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

06-12-2016, 09:14 PM	#15
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	Exactly, you're trained, you hang with trained people. When you look at a problem, you have a completely different set of tools in your bag you can use for a solution. Most people don't have those tools so they have a shorter list of reasonable options. I know my limitations, and they're not mental, they're physical. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

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