Thirty Days

Gravdigr · 05-21-2012, 02:59 PM

Former Rutgers student Dharun Ravi gets thirty days. Thirty fucking days.

He should get more than thirty days just for me having to hear that shit for a fucking year and a half. The judge should have to do the time with him.

What a fucking crock of shit.

He's a smarmy looking little fuck, too.

Trilby · 05-21-2012, 03:21 PM

Wow. What b.s.
Bet they suspend 29 days of it too.

TheMercenary · 05-21-2012, 05:11 PM

Mother fuck should have gone to prison for 10 years. Not less. Another mis-justice.

Aliantha · 05-21-2012, 05:45 PM

I'm not condoning what this boy did, but there's probably a lot more to the story that we don't know.

How do you know the boy who killed himself wasn't racist or something? There had to be a reason the indian kid decided to do what he did.

TheMercenary · 05-21-2012, 07:48 PM

IMHO it is not ok to OUT people who do not want to be Outed. Not in this day and age. Yea we can all pat each other on the back and talk a good game about DADT or other bullshit feel good stuff but the reality is that it can still be a dangerous place for people who don't think like we do and we should not have a Right to put them at risk. The fuck should have gone to the Big House, JMHO.

tw · 05-21-2012, 08:33 PM

The judge said it was a bias crime; not a hate crime. His interpretation will be aired in appeals file by both prosecution and defense.

Underlying his decision were details in a recently enacted New Jersey law.

Aliantha · 05-22-2012, 12:32 AM

The article in the OP said he's already outted himself to his parents. Normally they're the last ones to know aren't they?

Anyway, this particular news item hasn't been in the media here, so today was the first I heard about it when I read this thread.

I'll leave those of you more knowledgeable about the facts to argue the case.

classicman · 05-22-2012, 08:24 AM

My take is that the actions of this guy were, in some part, responsible for the death of a human. For him to get 30 days is a travesty. Gay, black, female, Muslim, wtfe - doesn't matter to me.

Clodfobble · 05-22-2012, 01:50 PM

On the one hand, the boy who committed suicide clearly had some underlying issues. If some bitch at the grocery store snarks, "Move out of the way, fattie," I don't think she should be held fully responsible if that happens to be the last straw for the overweight person and they decide to kill themselves. On the other hand, true bullying is of course completely unacceptable, and I didn't follow the case closely enough to find out if this was an isolated prank or a culmination of bullying behavior, a lot of which depends on what the roommate did with the video footage after he had it.

What I did read, though, is that at no point did the roommate show the slightest remorse at what had happened, and that he is now vigorously appealing his slap-on-the-wrist sentence. So fuck him. His character has shown through, and I because of that I say he deserves a longer sentence.

Ibby · 05-22-2012, 01:57 PM

I'm glad that we don't always impose sentences based on character showing through. Kid's a douchecanoe, but if it wasn't illegal (or illegal enough) that's a flaw in our laws, not in our justice system. Urge congress to expand anti-bullying legislation at a federal level.

classicman · 05-22-2012, 11:02 PM

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Kid's a douchecanoe

tw · 05-23-2012, 11:12 AM

Dharun Ravi was convicted of a bias crime and invasion of privacy. Relatively minor crimes. But he was also found guilty of witness tampering and hindering arrest. Latter two counts are more serious. Why did he get little punishment for that?

Dharun Ravi is an Indian immigrant. Had he been prosecuted in a Federal court, then deportation may have been a consideration. States cannot deport immigrants.

TheMercenary · 05-24-2012, 01:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Ibram

Urge congress to expand anti-bullying legislation at a federal level.

Yea, great idea. More of the Feds getting in our shit. Screw that. I would rather see states go there own way, where in Texas they beat the shit out of you and in Mass they give you flowers, hell we are heading that way anyhow....

tw · 05-24-2012, 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by TheMercenary

... in Texas they beat the shit out of you and in Mass they give you flowers, hell we are heading that way anyhow....

We all know that intelligence increases when we beat the shit out of people. And when we completely misrepresent what happens in Massachusetts.

DanaC · 05-24-2012, 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by tw

We all know that intelligence increases when we beat the shit out of people. And when we completely misrepresent what happens in Massachusetts.

*snort* witty bastard* :p

* just in case there's cultural misunderstanding, this is not me using 'bastard' as a term of abuse.

05-21-2012, 02:59 PM	#1
Gravdigr The Un-Tuckian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: South Central...KY that is Posts: 39,517	Thirty Days Former Rutgers student Dharun Ravi gets thirty days. Thirty fucking days. He should get more than thirty days just for me having to hear that shit for a fucking year and a half. The judge should have to do the time with him. What a fucking crock of shit. He's a smarmy looking little fuck, too. __________________ These statements have not been evaluated by the FDA, EPA, FBI, DEA, CDC, or FDIC. These statements are not intended to diagnose, cause, treat, cure, or prevent any disease. If you feel you have been harmed/offended by, or, disagree with any of the above statements or images, please feel free to fuck right off.

05-21-2012, 03:21 PM	#2
Trilby Slattern of the Swail Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 15,654	Wow. What b.s. Bet they suspend 29 days of it too. __________________ In Barrie's play and novel, the roles of fairies are brief: they are allies to the Lost Boys, the source of fairy dust and ...They are portrayed as dangerous, whimsical and extremely clever but quite hedonistic. "Shall I give you a kiss?" Peter asked and, jerking an acorn button off his coat, solemnly presented it to her. —James Barrie Wimminfolk they be tricksy. - ZenGum

05-21-2012, 05:11 PM	#3
TheMercenary “Hypocrisy: prejudice with a halo” Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Savannah, Georgia Posts: 21,393	Mother fuck should have gone to prison for 10 years. Not less. Another mis-justice. __________________ Anyone but the this most fuked up President in History in 2012!

05-21-2012, 05:45 PM	#4
Aliantha trying hard to be a better person Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 16,493	I'm not condoning what this boy did, but there's probably a lot more to the story that we don't know. How do you know the boy who killed himself wasn't racist or something? There had to be a reason the indian kid decided to do what he did. __________________ Kind words are the music of the world. F. W. Faber

05-21-2012, 07:48 PM	#5
TheMercenary “Hypocrisy: prejudice with a halo” Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Savannah, Georgia Posts: 21,393	IMHO it is not ok to OUT people who do not want to be Outed. Not in this day and age. Yea we can all pat each other on the back and talk a good game about DADT or other bullshit feel good stuff but the reality is that it can still be a dangerous place for people who don't think like we do and we should not have a Right to put them at risk. The fuck should have gone to the Big House, JMHO. __________________ Anyone but the this most fuked up President in History in 2012!

05-21-2012, 08:33 PM	#6
tw Read? I only know how to write. Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 11,933	The judge said it was a bias crime; not a hate crime. His interpretation will be aired in appeals file by both prosecution and defense. Underlying his decision were details in a recently enacted New Jersey law.

05-22-2012, 12:32 AM	#7
Aliantha trying hard to be a better person Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 16,493	The article in the OP said he's already outted himself to his parents. Normally they're the last ones to know aren't they? Anyway, this particular news item hasn't been in the media here, so today was the first I heard about it when I read this thread. I'll leave those of you more knowledgeable about the facts to argue the case. __________________ Kind words are the music of the world. F. W. Faber

05-22-2012, 08:24 AM	#8
classicman barely disguised asshole, keeper of all that is holy. Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 23,401	My take is that the actions of this guy were, in some part, responsible for the death of a human. For him to get 30 days is a travesty. Gay, black, female, Muslim, wtfe - doesn't matter to me. __________________ "like strapping a pillow on a bull in a china shop" Bullitt

05-22-2012, 01:50 PM	#9
Clodfobble UNDER CONDITIONAL MITIGATION Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 20,012	On the one hand, the boy who committed suicide clearly had some underlying issues. If some bitch at the grocery store snarks, "Move out of the way, fattie," I don't think she should be held fully responsible if that happens to be the last straw for the overweight person and they decide to kill themselves. On the other hand, true bullying is of course completely unacceptable, and I didn't follow the case closely enough to find out if this was an isolated prank or a culmination of bullying behavior, a lot of which depends on what the roommate did with the video footage after he had it. What I did read, though, is that at no point did the roommate show the slightest remorse at what had happened, and that he is now vigorously appealing his slap-on-the-wrist sentence. So fuck him. His character has shown through, and I because of that I say he deserves a longer sentence. __________________ My book My other book My spirit animal

05-22-2012, 01:57 PM	#10
Ibby erika Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: "the high up north" Posts: 6,127	I'm glad that we don't always impose sentences based on character showing through. Kid's a douchecanoe, but if it wasn't illegal (or illegal enough) that's a flaw in our laws, not in our justice system. Urge congress to expand anti-bullying legislation at a federal level. __________________ not really back, you didn't see me, i was never here shhhhhh

05-23-2012, 11:12 AM	#12
tw Read? I only know how to write. Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 11,933	Dharun Ravi was convicted of a bias crime and invasion of privacy. Relatively minor crimes. But he was also found guilty of witness tampering and hindering arrest. Latter two counts are more serious. Why did he get little punishment for that? Dharun Ravi is an Indian immigrant. Had he been prosecuted in a Federal court, then deportation may have been a consideration. States cannot deport immigrants.

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