8/26/2002 extra: Palestinian youth - Page 2

08-27-2002, 12:36 AM

No offense Jag, but you're deliberately taking one argument and twisting it into another. For all the time you spend bitching about how Maggie does this to you, you seem to do it enough yourself.

jaguar · 08-27-2002, 03:05 AM

Yea i know but the irony of them both having the same gun and being the same age, yet one is a poster boy and the other one is a victim of child abuse was just too much.

juju · 08-27-2002, 03:23 AM

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Originally posted by jaguar
Yea i know but the irony of them both having the same gun and being the same age, yet one is a poster boy and the other one is a victim of child abuse was just too much.

It is pretty funny.

NateXLH1000 · 08-27-2002, 08:12 AM

Perhaps we should just interpret the pictures as product endorsements?

also, the poor palestine kid wasn't given a magazine.

I guess it's abuse if you send a 9 year old into battle with an unloaded weapon?

NateXLH1000 · 08-27-2002, 08:17 AM

Sorry, just saw its magazine now.

stupid black plastic magazines!

time to adjust gamma.

MaggieL · 08-27-2002, 10:07 AM

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Originally posted by jaguar
Yea i know but the irony of them both having the same gun and being the same age, yet one is a poster boy and the other one is a victim of child abuse was just too much.

The difference, jag, is that one is being taught *how* to shoot, while the other is being indoctrinated in *who* to shoot. (Check out the other pic of the kids shooting at a toy town flying Israeli flags.) I doubt the camo kid has baby pix with explosives strapped to his waist.

Double T · 08-27-2002, 11:37 AM

In support of MaggieL's statement, a little known fact about the fighting going on in the Middle East is that 70% of the Al-Qaida fighters in Afghanistan were under the age of 18. Where do I get this information from? Im enlisted into the United States Navy part of the Rosevelt fleet. Onboard we had Marines who recalled skirmishes in which numerious teenagers fired live rounds with intent to do harm (meaning aimed at the Marines).

jaguar · 08-27-2002, 04:41 PM

Who's the other one aiming at then? Its not exactly something you'd use for deer hunting. I'm sure they taught him how to shoot too, they wouldn't give such an expensive weapon to a kid without training afterall.

BrianR · 08-27-2002, 04:51 PM

I'm also a Navy man...recently retired and wishing I weren't.

I was Tin Can Navy though.

Brian

warch · 08-27-2002, 05:22 PM

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Perhaps we should just interpret the pictures as product endorsements?

We do. I'm guessing that's is why the Palestinian media machine (?!) has nixed the marketing campaign. Selling the young warrior-martyr to all sides needs a new, fresh spin. Less, how shall we say,...aggressor...Lets see..

Nic Name · 08-27-2002, 07:08 PM

The Israeli media machine thinks it is a good idea to use these images, though.

Palestinian Children Call Iraq to Attack Israel

http://www.idf.il/newsite/english/kids.stm

MaggieL · 08-27-2002, 07:14 PM

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Originally posted by jaguar
Who's the other one aiming at then?

I would imagine he's aiming at a paper target, that being what people who are training usually shoot at. Unless they're martyrs-in-training, in which case the targets are a bit more...shall we say "representational"? As we see in the other photo?

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I'm sure they taught him how to shoot too, they wouldn't give such an expensive weapon to a kid without training afterall.

He surely hasn't had what I would consider *good* training; his finger's on the trigger without him being set up on a target.

Not to worry, if he accidently blows away one of his friends, instant martyr, and they'll say an Israeli soldier did it. When you get them by stealing them from the Israelis, M-16's aren't all that expensive. Most of his buddies do seem to have AK-47s, though. Maybe after the photo he had to give it back.

Undertoad · 08-27-2002, 07:40 PM

They didn't have to steal the F-16s. The US provided them as a part of Oslo, to establish a Palestinian security force.

Nic Name · 08-27-2002, 07:48 PM

Undertoad · 08-27-2002, 09:11 PM

M, F, what's the difference.

08-27-2002, 03:05 AM	#17
jaguar whig Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 5,075	Yea i know but the irony of them both having the same gun and being the same age, yet one is a poster boy and the other one is a victim of child abuse was just too much. __________________ Good friends, good books and a sleepy conscience: this is the ideal life. - Twain

08-27-2002, 08:12 AM	#19
NateXLH1000 Wiseacre Emeritus Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Masshole Posts: 35	posterboy vs. abused Perhaps we should just interpret the pictures as product endorsements? also, the poor palestine kid wasn't given a magazine. I guess it's abuse if you send a 9 year old into battle with an unloaded weapon? __________________ I have no signature.

08-27-2002, 08:17 AM	#20
NateXLH1000 Wiseacre Emeritus Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Masshole Posts: 35	oops! Sorry, just saw its magazine now. stupid black plastic magazines! time to adjust gamma. __________________ I have no signature.

08-27-2002, 04:41 PM	#23
jaguar whig Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 5,075	Who's the other one aiming at then? Its not exactly something you'd use for deer hunting. I'm sure they taught him how to shoot too, they wouldn't give such an expensive weapon to a kid without training afterall. __________________ Good friends, good books and a sleepy conscience: this is the ideal life. - Twain

08-27-2002, 04:51 PM	#24
BrianR Cleverly disguised as a responsible adult Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 3,338	Welcome Double T I'm also a Navy man...recently retired and wishing I weren't. I was Tin Can Navy though. Brian __________________ Never be afraid to tell the world who you are. -- Anonymous

08-27-2002, 12:36 AM	#16
dave Guest Posts: n/a	No offense Jag, but you're deliberately taking one argument and twisting it into another. For all the time you spend bitching about how Maggie does this to you, you seem to do it enough yourself.

08-27-2002, 11:37 AM	#22
Double T pewsay for life Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 9	In support of MaggieL's statement, a little known fact about the fighting going on in the Middle East is that 70% of the Al-Qaida fighters in Afghanistan were under the age of 18. Where do I get this information from? Im enlisted into the United States Navy part of the Rosevelt fleet. Onboard we had Marines who recalled skirmishes in which numerious teenagers fired live rounds with intent to do harm (meaning aimed at the Marines).

08-27-2002, 07:08 PM	#26
Nic Name retired Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 1,930	The Israeli media machine thinks it is a good idea to use these images, though. Palestinian Children Call Iraq to Attack Israel http://www.idf.il/newsite/english/kids.stm

08-27-2002, 07:40 PM	#28
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	They didn't have to steal the F-16s. The US provided them as a part of Oslo, to establish a Palestinian security force.

08-27-2002, 07:48 PM	#29
Nic Name retired Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 1,930	F-16 Last edited by Nic Name; 08-27-2002 at 08:35 PM.

08-27-2002, 09:11 PM	#30
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	M, F, what's the difference.

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