brainstorm: solve the palestinian israeli conflict - Page 2

Undertoad · 01-16-2012, 02:38 PM

Give the Ottoman Empire back to the Ottomans.

Pete Zicato · 01-16-2012, 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Undertoad

Give the Ottoman Empire back to the Ottomans.

Cool. I've got an ottoman for my easy chair. How much land will it own?

Undertoad · 01-16-2012, 02:44 PM

No chair is easy in the levant my friend.

piercehawkeye45 · 01-16-2012, 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Undertoad

Give the Ottoman Empire back to the Ottomans.

Typical naive response. Go back farther in history UT. That land is obviously the Persians...

HungLikeJesus · 01-16-2012, 02:59 PM

Give India back to the Indians.

Spexxvet · 01-16-2012, 03:18 PM

Aren't the Israelis really just Jewish Palestinians?

Rhianne · 01-16-2012, 04:02 PM

Some are.

classicman · 01-16-2012, 04:08 PM

Are the rest Palestinian Jews?

ZenGum · 01-16-2012, 07:44 PM

Ok, here it is.

Everyone has to stop taking their make-believe game so seriously.
Everyone has to stop expecting other people to take their make-believe game as seriously as they do.
Everyone has to stop basing their world view on the idea that their imaginary friend promised this bit of real estate to them.
Everyone has to stop expecting other people to take the promises of their imaginary friend as seriously as they do.

That's good for a start, but the group identities of many of the groups involved also deeply involve hatred/resentment/desire to destroy one or more of the other groups. That has to go too.

Lamplighter · 01-16-2012, 08:02 PM

Z, that's worthy of advancing you to 2nd Level Imaginary Friend.

mw451 · 02-14-2012, 04:36 PM

They will fix it, just wait and see.

TheMercenary · 02-14-2012, 04:50 PM

Well first off it is not about Palestinians anymore. It is about Iran, Hamas and Fatah, Egypt, Syria, Lebanon, and of course the US. There is no simple solution. One thing that would help if they could cut the head off the snake of Iran's meddling and get the Israeli's to stop building more settlements where they don't belong.

piercehawkeye45 · 02-14-2012, 04:52 PM

I forget the reason but I've heard Iran is actually losing their influence on Hezbollah, Hamas, or both. They share mutual interests but Hezbollah and Hamas want to be seen as independent.

TheMercenary · 02-14-2012, 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by piercehawkeye45

I forget the reason but I've heard Iran is actually losing their influence on Hezbollah, Hamas, or both. They share mutual interests but Hezbollah and Hamas want to be seen as independent.

They would not exist without Iran.

piercehawkeye45 · 02-14-2012, 04:56 PM

Yet not seen as their lapdogs.

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Hamas appears to be drifting away from its longtime patron Iran — part of a shift that began with last year's Arab Spring and accelerated over Tehran's backing of the pariah regime in Syria.

The movement's top leader in exile, Khaled Mashaal, wants Hamas to be part of the broader Islamist political rise triggered by the popular uprisings sweeping across the Arab world. For this, Hamas needs new friends like the wealthy Gulf states that are at odds with Iran.

For now, Hamas won't cut ties with Iran or close its headquarters-in-exile in the Syrian capital of Damascus, officials in the movement said.

However, relations have become increasingly strained.

http://abcnews.go.com/International/...3#.TzrmeLRZorM

01-16-2012, 02:59 PM	#20
HungLikeJesus Only looks like a disaster tourist Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: above 7,000 feet Posts: 7,208	Give India back to the Indians. __________________ Keep Your Bodies Off My Lawn SteveDallas's Random Thread Picker.

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Spexxvet Makes some feel uncomfortable Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 10,346	Aren't the Israelis really just Jewish Palestinians? __________________ "I'm certainly free, nay compelled, to spread the gospel of Spex. " - xoxoxoBruce

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classicman barely disguised asshole, keeper of all that is holy. Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 23,401	Are the rest Palestinian Jews? __________________ "like strapping a pillow on a bull in a china shop" Bullitt

01-16-2012, 07:44 PM	#24
ZenGum Doctor Wtf Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Badelaide, Baustralia Posts: 12,861	Ok, here it is. Everyone has to stop taking their make-believe game so seriously. Everyone has to stop expecting other people to take their make-believe game as seriously as they do. Everyone has to stop basing their world view on the idea that their imaginary friend promised this bit of real estate to them. Everyone has to stop expecting other people to take the promises of their imaginary friend as seriously as they do. That's good for a start, but the group identities of many of the groups involved also deeply involve hatred/resentment/desire to destroy one or more of the other groups. That has to go too. __________________ Shut up and hug. MoreThanPretty, Nov 5, 2008. Just because I'm nominally polite, does not make me a pussy. Sundae Girl.

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mw451 Disorderly Orderly Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Northern Virginia/DC Posts: 53	Germany!!! They will fix it, just wait and see. __________________ The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few, or... the one. -- Spock

01-16-2012, 02:38 PM	#16
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	Give the Ottoman Empire back to the Ottomans.

01-16-2012, 02:44 PM	#18
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	No chair is easy in the levant my friend.

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Rhianne Nearly done. Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Teetering on the edge. Posts: 1,134	Some are.

01-16-2012, 08:02 PM	#25
Lamplighter Person who doesn't update the user title Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Bottom lands of the Missoula floods Posts: 6,402	Z, that's worthy of advancing you to 2nd Level Imaginary Friend.

02-14-2012, 04:50 PM	#27
TheMercenary “Hypocrisy: prejudice with a halo” Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Savannah, Georgia Posts: 21,393	Well first off it is not about Palestinians anymore. It is about Iran, Hamas and Fatah, Egypt, Syria, Lebanon, and of course the US. There is no simple solution. One thing that would help if they could cut the head off the snake of Iran's meddling and get the Israeli's to stop building more settlements where they don't belong. __________________ Anyone but the this most fuked up President in History in 2012!

02-14-2012, 04:52 PM	#28
piercehawkeye45 Franklin Pierce Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Minnesota Posts: 3,695	I forget the reason but I've heard Iran is actually losing their influence on Hezbollah, Hamas, or both. They share mutual interests but Hezbollah and Hamas want to be seen as independent. __________________ I like my perspectives like I like my baseball caps: one size fits all.

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