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Old 03-28-2007, 05:32 PM   #76
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You died?
You are so funny!
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Old 03-28-2007, 05:35 PM   #77
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Same for you SPEX, specifically what has happened DIRECTLY to you where you have lost a right? Anything. Come on, your rights are so under attack, describe your personal loss. Anything??? I really want to know how you have been personally affected. Come on, I am open to hear your stories.
How can I know? They're doing it in SECRET! That's the point. No justification, no probable cause, no court approval, nothing. For all I know, they've gotten all my records about everyfuckingthing I've done through my entire life. After all, I am impotent....er...important.

Why don't you ask the lawyer in the northwest US who was arrested for the Madrid bombings.
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Old 03-28-2007, 05:35 PM   #78
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Come on fellas, nothing. No personal loss of any kind?
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Old 03-28-2007, 05:38 PM   #79
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No, lets not deviate. HM, specifically what has happened DIRECTLY to you where you have lost a right? Anything. Come on, your rights are so under attack, describe your personal loss.
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Old 03-28-2007, 05:38 PM   #80
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How can I know? They're doing it in SECRET! That's the point. No justification, no probable cause, no court approval, nothing. For all I know, they've gotten all my records about everyfuckingthing I've done through my entire life. After all, I am impotent....er...important.

Why don't you ask the lawyer in the northwest US who was arrested for the Madrid bombings.
Well I would say that you are guessing, that in some way you are just "terrified" that something has happened to you, but you really don't know if something has or not. But because you heard that the government was evesdropping on calls that originated from outside the US into the US, on suspected terrorist activity that now you are worried. Hmmmmmm.....
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Old 03-28-2007, 05:39 PM   #81
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So you basically have nothing and are just "terrified" as well that something has happened and you really just don't know it. Ok.
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Old 03-28-2007, 05:40 PM   #82
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Old 03-28-2007, 05:40 PM   #83
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Whether it happens to me is irrellevant. It is happening. It has been admitted.
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Old 03-28-2007, 05:45 PM   #84
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Whether it happens to me is irrellevant. It is happening. It has been admitted.
It is most rellevent because it is not happening you. It is happening to others who are under suspicion . What is rellevent is that you are not and have not been affected. Have you? But you fear it. The big bad brother is coming after you and your terrorist friends right??? I doubt it. The point is you are not and have not been affected by any of this. You are drinking way to much of the electric kool aid. Go back to water. Your fears are unfounded.
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Old 03-28-2007, 05:46 PM   #85
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I never said they were after me. I said they are breaking the law.
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Old 03-28-2007, 05:47 PM   #86
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I never said they were after me. I said they are breaking the law.
And I say you can't prove that, nor can anyone else.
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Old 03-28-2007, 05:47 PM   #87
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They admitted it.
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They admitted it.
Original source citation please.
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Old 03-28-2007, 06:01 PM   #89
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http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14393611/

Warrantless wiretaps are illegal inside the US. They admitted using warrantless wiretaps inside the US. There are emergency workarounds in the form of the FISA court. They did not follow that law.

http://www.postchronicle.com/news/br...21271655.shtml

Warrantless/subpoenaless searches are illegal. They have an end-run around this in the form of "national security letters" which are supposed to be used for emergencies. But they broke the law even in their workaround.
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If the terrorists have you in such dire fear for your safety that they are changing your actions, making you give up rights, making you do things that you shouldn't, making you terrified...

They've won.
You're goddamn skippy!
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