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Old 02-01-2008, 02:08 PM   #16
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Old 02-01-2008, 02:20 PM   #17
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fuck! where is my sword?
I think rich had it in the NSFWWTF thread which goes to show he was trying to type a letter
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Old 02-01-2008, 02:31 PM   #18
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this is just an anti association thread.
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Old 02-01-2008, 02:32 PM   #19
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Old 02-01-2008, 03:46 PM   #20
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a band supposedly named after a dildo

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but where are you
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Old 02-01-2008, 06:30 PM   #21
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Dave Matthews Band?
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Old 02-01-2008, 09:45 PM   #22
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(steely dan - black cow. I always thought, with the exception of that one brilliant Steve Gadd jam, they kept the drums way too subdued on Aja.)
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Old 02-01-2008, 09:56 PM   #23
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Hey, you, stop with the sequiturs already.

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Old 02-01-2008, 11:21 PM   #24
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I always thought, with the exception of that one brilliant Steve Gadd jam, they kept the drums way too subdued on Aja.
Really?! I'm surprised to hear that. I consider the drum performances on Aja to be pretty much the gold standard. Playing exactly what is needed, with no unnecessary notes, and laying down a big, comfortable groove cushion for the band. Jim Keltner's ultra-minimalistic drum fills on Josie! Bernard Purdie's "Purdie Shuffle" on Home At Last! Rick Marotta on Peg, my God - another masterpiece! Ed Greene's famous "dagga-doo" fill on I Got The News. We're talking about an album that's like the Bible of sophisticated, mature drumming in popular music. I mean, yeah, it's subdued, that's the whole point! Playing a smooth, solid part. Submitting yourself and your body to the purposes of the almighty groove.
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Old 02-01-2008, 11:34 PM   #25
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I'll have to revisit my thought - it was a thought I had 25 years ago and it might be tempered by maturity and understanding.
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Old 02-01-2008, 11:36 PM   #26
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When I was younger I thought only Prog and Fusion were where it's at, because they played so many of notes and so many odd time signatures. I was so incredibly wrong. I can't describe the joy I've learned to get out of playing almost nothing. My job as a drummer is a support role, and that's it.
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Old 02-02-2008, 12:55 AM   #27
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But in the case of Steely Dan, there's all that fusion in it, but all the hard work is designated to the other instruments. The most complicated chord structures you'd ever want! And why does Gadd get to go off but nobody else does?
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Old 02-02-2008, 09:41 AM   #28
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And why does Gadd get to go off but nobody else does?
I would ask the question in a different way: Why did they only write one song for the album where it was appropriate for the drummer to go off?

But the answer may have something more to do with their tendency to bring in a bunch of different session players, let them do their own thing, and pick the guy that fits the song the best. They didn't know in advance that Home At Last would have a Purdie Shuffle, but when you hear it that way, you know that's it.

Aja may simply be the product of Gadd doing his Gadd thing, creating these mind-blowing parts that leave you standing there with your jaw on the floor, while, for him, it's just another day at the office. Of course, the song was written with these big wide-open spaces in it, but, who would have ever thought that Gadd would have played what he did? Maybe they knew they had some space to fill, so they just unleashed Gadd on it. Most of the other guys, when there was space, just left the space, and that sound good too. I don't know, dude. That's a good question.
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Old 02-02-2008, 11:09 AM   #29
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do you like dags?


ps... steely dan is the worst.
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Old 02-02-2008, 11:25 AM   #30
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Re-listening -- you are right. Where Gadd goes off, the rest of the crew is usually honking out one chord. Everything else is complicated, so if the drums are complicated it's gonna be too busy.

If you play drums for Steely Dan, you have to master the ping tang ting of gently touching cymbals.

Holy crap, I keep getting distracted by Becker's amazing bass parts.
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