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DanaC · 03-02-2009, 03:05 PM

Too many kids get put needlessly onto meds for 'problems' which aren't medical.

But...some kids need those meds. From your description, your little boy's brain chemistry is painting him a very hostile and unforgiving world. Sounds like your therapist's experience with his own son is worth some thought. You may be able to save li'l lookout a lot of unhappiness.

Cicero · 03-02-2009, 03:48 PM

The world isn't hostile and unforgiving?

Meds please.

monster · 03-02-2009, 03:54 PM

Lookout, it's not necessarily a life sentence, growing up is hard enough as it is. Meds can help the sufferer while they deal with the regular growing up stuff and aquire coping strategies. As they mature and have made sense of some of their little bit of the world, many people are able to wean themselves off the meds. Michael Phelps for example.

I'm a knee-jerk anti-meds person too, but in this case it sounds like meds may be in the best interests of LL right now.

God luck to all of you, I hope LL feels happier soon.

Cicero · 03-02-2009, 04:03 PM

Lookout-

As far as little lookout is concerned:I would definitely go with a second opinion before meds. It could not hurt. And I think it's worth it. Please take him to someone else to get another diagnosis, this sounds irregular, maybe he just needs time and therapy to become his natural self again. This could be a depressive phase that even normal people go through.

Different therapists advise different things and unfortunately, some are more acute than others. Second opinion that situation, stat!

ZenGum · 03-02-2009, 04:50 PM

Dana: If The Bill is anything to go by, there WILL be paperwork, and lots of it. Refusing a prisoner medical treatment is outrageous, and if you have the time and energy to spare I would encourage you to look into it; but don't spend time you could better use elsewhere. That cop does need a boot up the bum.

I imagine you'd have the political connections to at least find out in advance the name of the paperwork you are looking for - maybe the "custody records" or something. Knowing what you need before you face the bureaucracy will help.

Lookout: best of luck with LL. That lad rocks and I hope he comes through this all intact. I agree with your opinions and default avoidance of meds, but if he needs them, he needs them, and I am sure you'd be using them as part of a complete cognitive/behavioural programme and get him off the pills ASAP. Give the lad a

from us all.

monster · 03-02-2009, 10:16 PM

Just learned a friemd underwent a mastectomy for breast cancer. It wasn't at all advanced, but there were several other "dubious" spots that would need to be watched and she's a single mom of two with a loser ex, huge un-dumpable mortgage, full-time job..... so she didn't want the constant fight and worry and uncertainty and chance of missing something and leaving her children....

Aliantha · 03-02-2009, 10:22 PM

Sounds like she made a tough, but good decision monster. I'm sure you'll be able to give her plenty of support through the next while till she gets used to the way her body is now. I hope she's coping ok with it all. I can't imagine going through that process.

monster · 03-03-2009, 07:18 AM

She hardly told anybody either, so it's hard to know when to step in and when to back off. I taught math to one of her daughters yesterday and she seemed to be holding up well, laughing and getting on with it (I heard there were a few meltdowns on the day of surgery...). here's hoping the worst is past, I don't know if she'll have to do chemo or anything. She has her mom with her, al least, though, who seems to be a tower of strength.

Trilby · 03-03-2009, 08:23 AM

my thoughts are with her, monster. I can't imagine...I only have a few scars but it has changed the way I look at myself---to lose a breast---I don't know if I could have held up. Peace to her and her family.

Clodfobble · 03-03-2009, 12:44 PM

I'm sure she's glad to have you there for her, monster, even if she's not making a big deal about it.

Trilby · 03-03-2009, 02:18 PM

I'm collecting Jim Shore figurines and I can't help myself!

SteveDallas · 03-03-2009, 02:31 PM

I made a total rookie mistake today. (You don't just run backups. You also do test restores periodically to make sure they're running PROPERLY.)

Clodfobble · 03-03-2009, 02:35 PM

Heh. At a previous employer, they were migrating email over to a new server, and somehow got it wrong, deleting every single email account in the company, along with all associated emails, addressbooks, etc.

It was only then that they discovered they'd been doing backups incorrectly for four years. "Test restore? What's that?"

Which is to say, at least rookie mistakes still way better than firing mistakes, right?

xoxoxoBruce · 03-04-2009, 11:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brianna

I'm collecting Jim Shore figurines and I can't help myself!

But, but, they're so, so, acceptable/normal/middle class.

Hell, they won't offend a n y o n e.

Cloud · 03-05-2009, 01:11 PM

Dr. called--wants to see me re: my sonogram results.

probably means uterine cysts, ovarian cysts, cancer, or something else wrong in there.

I'm a bit scared.

03-02-2009, 03:48 PM	#3422
Cicero Looking forward to open mic night. Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: New Mexico Posts: 5,148	The world isn't hostile and unforgiving? Meds please. __________________ Show me a sane man, and I will cure him for you.- Carl Jung

03-02-2009, 03:54 PM	#3423
monster I hear them call the tide Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Perpetual Chaos Posts: 30,852	Lookout, it's not necessarily a life sentence, growing up is hard enough as it is. Meds can help the sufferer while they deal with the regular growing up stuff and aquire coping strategies. As they mature and have made sense of some of their little bit of the world, many people are able to wean themselves off the meds. Michael Phelps for example. I'm a knee-jerk anti-meds person too, but in this case it sounds like meds may be in the best interests of LL right now. God luck to all of you, I hope LL feels happier soon. __________________ The most difficult thing is the decision to act, the rest is merely tenacity Amelia Earhart

03-02-2009, 04:03 PM	#3424
Cicero Looking forward to open mic night. Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: New Mexico Posts: 5,148	Lookout- As far as little lookout is concerned:I would definitely go with a second opinion before meds. It could not hurt. And I think it's worth it. Please take him to someone else to get another diagnosis, this sounds irregular, maybe he just needs time and therapy to become his natural self again. This could be a depressive phase that even normal people go through. Different therapists advise different things and unfortunately, some are more acute than others. Second opinion that situation, stat! __________________ Show me a sane man, and I will cure him for you.- Carl Jung

03-02-2009, 04:50 PM	#3425
ZenGum Doctor Wtf Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Badelaide, Baustralia Posts: 12,861	Dana: If The Bill is anything to go by, there WILL be paperwork, and lots of it. Refusing a prisoner medical treatment is outrageous, and if you have the time and energy to spare I would encourage you to look into it; but don't spend time you could better use elsewhere. That cop does need a boot up the bum. I imagine you'd have the political connections to at least find out in advance the name of the paperwork you are looking for - maybe the "custody records" or something. Knowing what you need before you face the bureaucracy will help. Lookout: best of luck with LL. That lad rocks and I hope he comes through this all intact. I agree with your opinions and default avoidance of meds, but if he needs them, he needs them, and I am sure you'd be using them as part of a complete cognitive/behavioural programme and get him off the pills ASAP. Give the lad a from us all. __________________ Shut up and hug. MoreThanPretty, Nov 5, 2008. Just because I'm nominally polite, does not make me a pussy. Sundae Girl.

03-02-2009, 10:16 PM	#3426
monster I hear them call the tide Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Perpetual Chaos Posts: 30,852	Just learned a friemd underwent a mastectomy for breast cancer. It wasn't at all advanced, but there were several other "dubious" spots that would need to be watched and she's a single mom of two with a loser ex, huge un-dumpable mortgage, full-time job..... so she didn't want the constant fight and worry and uncertainty and chance of missing something and leaving her children.... __________________ The most difficult thing is the decision to act, the rest is merely tenacity Amelia Earhart

03-02-2009, 03:05 PM	#3421
DanaC We have to go back, Kate! Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Yorkshire Posts: 25,964	Too many kids get put needlessly onto meds for 'problems' which aren't medical. But...some kids need those meds. From your description, your little boy's brain chemistry is painting him a very hostile and unforgiving world. Sounds like your therapist's experience with his own son is worth some thought. You may be able to save li'l lookout a lot of unhappiness.

03-02-2009, 10:22 PM	#3427
Aliantha trying hard to be a better person Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 16,493	Sounds like she made a tough, but good decision monster. I'm sure you'll be able to give her plenty of support through the next while till she gets used to the way her body is now. I hope she's coping ok with it all. I can't imagine going through that process. __________________ Kind words are the music of the world. F. W. Faber

03-03-2009, 07:18 AM	#3428
monster I hear them call the tide Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Perpetual Chaos Posts: 30,852	She hardly told anybody either, so it's hard to know when to step in and when to back off. I taught math to one of her daughters yesterday and she seemed to be holding up well, laughing and getting on with it (I heard there were a few meltdowns on the day of surgery...). here's hoping the worst is past, I don't know if she'll have to do chemo or anything. She has her mom with her, al least, though, who seems to be a tower of strength. __________________ The most difficult thing is the decision to act, the rest is merely tenacity Amelia Earhart

03-03-2009, 08:23 AM	#3429
Trilby Slattern of the Swail Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 15,654	my thoughts are with her, monster. I can't imagine...I only have a few scars but it has changed the way I look at myself---to lose a breast---I don't know if I could have held up. Peace to her and her family. __________________ In Barrie's play and novel, the roles of fairies are brief: they are allies to the Lost Boys, the source of fairy dust and ...They are portrayed as dangerous, whimsical and extremely clever but quite hedonistic. "Shall I give you a kiss?" Peter asked and, jerking an acorn button off his coat, solemnly presented it to her. —James Barrie Wimminfolk they be tricksy. - ZenGum

03-03-2009, 12:44 PM	#3430
Clodfobble UNDER CONDITIONAL MITIGATION Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 20,012	I'm sure she's glad to have you there for her, monster, even if she's not making a big deal about it. __________________ My book My other book My spirit animal

03-03-2009, 02:18 PM	#3431
Trilby Slattern of the Swail Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 15,654	I'm collecting Jim Shore figurines and I can't help myself! __________________ In Barrie's play and novel, the roles of fairies are brief: they are allies to the Lost Boys, the source of fairy dust and ...They are portrayed as dangerous, whimsical and extremely clever but quite hedonistic. "Shall I give you a kiss?" Peter asked and, jerking an acorn button off his coat, solemnly presented it to her. —James Barrie Wimminfolk they be tricksy. - ZenGum

03-03-2009, 02:31 PM	#3432
SteveDallas Your Bartender Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Philly Burbs, PA Posts: 7,651	I made a total rookie mistake today. (You don't just run backups. You also do test restores periodically to make sure they're running PROPERLY.)

03-03-2009, 02:35 PM	#3433
Clodfobble UNDER CONDITIONAL MITIGATION Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 20,012	Heh. At a previous employer, they were migrating email over to a new server, and somehow got it wrong, deleting every single email account in the company, along with all associated emails, addressbooks, etc. It was only then that they discovered they'd been doing backups incorrectly for four years. "Test restore? What's that?" Which is to say, at least rookie mistakes still way better than firing mistakes, right? __________________ My book My other book My spirit animal

03-05-2009, 01:11 PM	#3435
Cloud ... Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 8,360	Dr. called--wants to see me re: my sonogram results. probably means uterine cysts, ovarian cysts, cancer, or something else wrong in there. I'm a bit scared. __________________ "Guard your honor. Let your reputation fall where it will. And outlive the bastards!"

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