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Old 12-30-2004, 04:48 PM   #1
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Time To End The Censorship

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http://www.eagleforum.org/column/200.../04-12-29.html

by Phyllis Schlafly
Dec. 29, 2004

The most censored speech in America today is not flag-burning, pornography, or the press. The worst censors are those prohibiting criticism of the theory of evolution in the classroom.

A Chinese scholar observed, "In China we can criticize Darwin but not the government. In America you can criticize the government but not Darwin."

All polls show that the vast majority of Americans reject the theory of evolution, as have great scientists such as Lord Kelvin and Louis Pasteur. But that does not stop an intolerant minority from trying to impose a belief in the ape-to-man theory on everyone else.

School boards have finally had enough of this tyranny. From Georgia to Pennsylvania to Ohio to Wisconsin to Kansas, school boards are finally moving toward allowing criticism of Darwin's theory.

The Darwinians have propped up their dominance in the classroom by the persistent use of frauds and flacks. The fraudulent pro-evolution embryo drawings of Ernst Haeckel littered schoolbooks for a hundred years, and it took specific action by the Texas Board of Education to keep them out of current textbooks even after the New York Times exposed Haeckel's deception.

Many textbooks feature pictures of giraffes stretching their necks to feed high off of trees, but genetics and observed feeding habits disprove that as a basis for evolution of their long necks. Moreover, the striking beauty of the colored pattern on the giraffes illustrates that design, not merely usefulness, is what animates our world.

Continued censorship of criticism invites additional fraud, so evolution has suffered more embarrassments than any other scientific theory. The Piltdown Man was a lie taught to schoolchildren for decades, even featured in the Scopes trial textbook, and only five years ago a dinosaur-bird fossil hoax was presented as true on the glossy pages of National Geographic.

If Darwinians want to teach that whales, which are mammals, evolved from black bears swimming with their mouths open, we should surely be entitled to criticize that. Yet school libraries have refused to accept books critical of evolution, even when written by college professors.

Responding to the majority of their constituents, Georgia's Cobb County recently authorized a textbook disclaimer saying "Evolution is a theory, not a fact, regarding the origin of living things. This material should be approached with an open mind, studied carefully, and critically considered."

The ACLU claims this is unconstitutional and is seeking out supremacist judges to order classroom curricula to continue the censorship and forbid an open mind about evolution. If the theory of evolution were well-supported, there would be no reason to oppose open debate about scientific claims.

In December, a world-famous champion of atheism, Antony Flew, announced his conversion to acceptance of intelligent design underlying our world. The Dallas Morning News observed, "If the scientific data are compelling enough to cause an atheist academic of Antony Flew's reputation to recant most of his life's work, why shouldn't Texas schoolchildren be taught the controversy?"

At 81, Flew can speak out because he is now free from the peer pressure that silences younger colleagues who fear loss of jobs, funding, or even dreams of winning a Nobel prize. Evolution critics Sir Fred Hoyle and Dr. Raymond Damadian were unjustly denied Nobel prizes and their work was instead recognized by awards to less-deserving others.

Darwinians know they cannot persuade skeptical adults, so they try to capture impressionable schoolchildren. At our expense and against our wishes, children are taught that the world exists only for what is useful, not by design.

To typical schoolchildren full of wonder, we live in a world best described as a marvelous work of art. The snowflakes that grace us at Christmastime typify the artistic beauty that bestows joy on all ages but, like an acid, evolution corrodes this inborn appreciation of beauty and falsely trains children to view themselves as mere animals no more worthy than dogs or cats.

There is a strong correlation between belief in evolution and liberal views on government control, pornography, prayer in schools, abortion, gun control, economic freedom, and even animal rights. For the most part, the schools in the blue Kerry states are strongly pro-evolution, while the red Bush states allow debate and dissent.

It should surprise no one that the United States, land of the free and home of the brave, has the lowest percentage of evolution believers in the world. The highest percentage lived in Communist East Germany.

The Tom Daschle Senate quietly slipped a provision into the No Child Left Behind Act that requires, by the 2007-2008 school year, science testing by grade 5. That gives the censors the authority to force ten-year-olds to believe and defend evolution.

It is long overdue for parents to realize they have the right and duty to protect our children against the intolerant evolutionists. Hooray for the courageous school boards that are finally rejecting censorship and allowing debate.
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Old 12-30-2004, 04:50 PM   #2
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Oh boy...another Schlafly article...
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Old 12-30-2004, 04:53 PM   #3
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Oh boy...another Schlafly article...
She's crazy, no doubt. She's fun to read, sort of like the Enquirer or similiar fine repositories of journalism.
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Old 12-30-2004, 04:59 PM   #4
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She's not crazy. She's not saying to put Creationism in the schools, she's saying to allow critical thinking and debate regarding the theory.

Isn't that what school is for?

If you want no religion in the school, ANY theory pertaining to origins needs to go.
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Old 12-30-2004, 05:01 PM   #5
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Have you been to her site or read her articles regularly?

She's crazy.
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Old 12-30-2004, 05:03 PM   #6
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At least this one is more "sound" than the one posted earlier this month.

I like this part: "All polls show that the vast majority of Americans reject the theory of evolution." I'd like to see her cites on that.
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Old 12-30-2004, 05:10 PM   #7
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Have you been to her site or read her articles regularly?

She's crazy.


Well, I mean I don't think she's crazy regarding this. I agree to a certain extent with her on this issue. I agree we should allow critical thinking and debate in the classroom, but more than that, *I* think we need to cut origins out of public school completely.
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Old 12-30-2004, 05:22 PM   #8
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At least this one is more "sound" than the one posted earlier this month.

I like this part: "All polls show that the vast majority of Americans reject the theory of evolution." I'd like to see her cites on that.
Yeah, like I said, crazy.

The problem is that her centrally located agenda isn't necessarily bad, you just have to dig beneath the surface a little and the nut shines through. I mean look at her perported ideals. They're not bad, it's just that she's a wackadoo.

Not crazy-
Eagle Forum supports American sovereignty
We oppose all encroachments against American sovereignty through treaties (such as the International Criminal Court) and United Nations conferences (such as those aimed at imposing energy restrictions on the U.S., registering privately owned guns, imposing global taxes, or promoting feminist goals).

Not crazy-
We oppose sending U.S. troops to participate in foreign "engagements" or wars unless U.S. national security is at stake and Congress's constitutional power is respected.

Not crazy-
We support the deployment of an anti-ballistic missile defense to protect American lives.

Not crazy-
We support establishing English as our official language.

Not crazy-
Eagle Forum supports American freedoms
We support large-scale reduction in income taxes.

Not crazy-
We support the immediate cessation of electronic profiling, i.e., entering personal information about law-abiding citizens on government databases or vaccine registries.

Not crazy-
We support putting control of health care spending in the hands of individuals by making health insurance tax deductible for all persons, not just for employers.

Not crazy-
We support the private enterprise system and reject the false dogma that tax-and-spend government can solve our social and economic problems.

Not crazy-
Eagle Forum supports the Constitution
We oppose all efforts to call a new Constitutional Convention that could rewrite our U.S. Constitution.

Not crazy- (not necessarily right, but not crazy)
We support the sanctity of human life as a gift from our Creator, as proclaimed in the Declaration of Independence.

Half and half-
We support congressional action to curb the Imperial Judiciary by refusing to confirm activist judges and repealing federal laws that diminish the Tenth Amendment.

Not crazy-
We support the right of individuals to keep and bear arms, as guaranteed in the Second Amendment.

Not crazy-
We oppose statehood for the District of Columbia or Puerto Rico.

Not crazy-
We support making elections honest by requiring positive identification for voters, cleaning up registration rolls, and enforcing ballot security.

Not cr..., um, I mean, yeah, crazy...
We honor the institution of marriage and the role of the fulltime homemaker.

Eagle Forum successfully led the ten-year battle to defeat the misnamed Equal Rights Amendment with its hidden agenda of tax-funded abortions and same-sex marriages.

Not crazy-
Eagle Forum supports traditions education
Every child should be able to read by the end of the first grade and should be taught to read using phonics. We urge parents to teach their own children to read before they enter school. Reducing illiteracy is an Eagle Forum priority.

Not crazy-
We oppose and deplore the dumbing down of the academic curriculum through fads such as Outcome-Based Education and self-esteem courses, and we oppose liberal propaganda in the curriculum through global education and Political Correctness.

Mostly not crazy-
We support parents' rights to guide the education of their own children, to protect their children against immoral instruction and materials, and to home-school without oppressive government regulation.

Mixed bag issue-
We oppose federal control of the public school classroom through Goals 2000, School-to-Work, national tests, or national standards.

Not crazy(mostly)-Eagle Forum was a primary factor in passing the Protection of Pupil Rights Amendment, and we strongly support its enforcement to protect children against psychological testing without parental consent.

Mostly crazy-
We oppose the feminist goals of federally financed and regulated child care and the feminization of the military.
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Old 12-30-2004, 05:39 PM   #9
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ok, so you assert "crazy" means "not equal to my opinion".

So therefore if someone doesn't agree with you they are crazy?
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Old 12-30-2004, 05:51 PM   #10
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ok, so you assert "crazy" means "not equal to my opinion".

So therefore if someone doesn't agree with you they are crazy?
Not at all, there is plenty of latitude if there are facts that are missing and multiple equally valid directions can be drawn the same information. Like I told Sycamore in another thread, opinions vary.
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Old 12-30-2004, 05:53 PM   #11
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What I'm wondering is why you call her crazy?

None of those ideas is particularly screeching "insanity". I guess I'm just wondering what about those things is "crazy" to you.
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Old 12-30-2004, 05:55 PM   #12
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What I'm wondering is why you call her crazy?

None of those ideas is particularly screeching "insanity". I guess I'm just wondering what about those things is "crazy" to you.
Part of my opinion comes from having read her newsletters for a good while now. I've also spent some time on her site.

Give it time...
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*****thread hijack in progress****
methinks TS has seen The Incredibles
*****we now return you to your regularly scheduled creationism vs evolution debate.
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Old 12-30-2004, 09:19 PM   #14
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There is a strong correlation between belief in evolution and liberal views on government control, pornography, prayer in schools, abortion, gun control, economic freedom, and even animal rights. For the most part, the schools in the blue Kerry states are strongly pro-evolution, while the red Bush states allow debate and dissent.
So if she (and the reds) has her way her views on government control, pornography, prayer in schools, abortion, gun control, economic freedom, and even animal rights will be imposed on me? I don't think I like the sound of that.
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Old 12-31-2004, 12:44 AM   #15
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I was just about to post this article to the evolution creationism debate thread.

It was indeed a scary day when I found out that I agreed with Phyllis on a lot of points.

And she was right about the ERA ...
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