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Old 08-26-2017, 11:28 PM   #16
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I've got a blue butterfly. It's on my taskbar. Clicking on it connects me to my email.
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Perhaps the boy's blue butterfly idea didn't come directly from nature and his parents didn't want him walking around with a Microsoft logo on his face. IT COULD HAPPEN!
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Old 08-27-2017, 12:55 AM   #17
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I'm with monster, at 11 to 14 girls going through puberty are embarrassed and tend to withdraw. Girls that age have a lot of pressure on them. Doing activities with other girls, even the same things the boys do, will boost their confidence in themselves, and a chance to mix other girls going through the same pressures.
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Old 08-27-2017, 10:15 AM   #18
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Isn't it a paramilitary organization? We need everyone to be able to manage basic skills
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Old 08-27-2017, 10:48 AM   #19
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Hmmm, is learning how to be resourceful in case one has to deal with the occurrence and aftermath of a tornado, hurricane, flood, earthquake, epidemic, wildfire; or, blizzard primarily the purview of the military? How about leadership and management?

I suppose some of those skills could be used in case of riots, wars, and acts of terrorism; but, does that really conjure up a paramilitary label with most people?
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Old 08-28-2017, 02:16 PM   #20
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That makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. Don't even know how to respond to something so ridiculous.

I'll be over here no longer interested.
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Old 08-28-2017, 04:46 PM   #21
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*shrug* it's okay, I'm wrong.
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Old 08-28-2017, 05:10 PM   #22
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*shrug* it's okay, I'm wrong.
As a kid, I always assumed they were proto-fascist, but a lot of them turned out to be run of the mill pot-heads, so we were both wrong. One of our local troops does a lot of good work with boys with disabilities so I've come around to the point where I figure generalizations are less than helpful.
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Old 08-28-2017, 05:20 PM   #23
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It's purely up to the leaders. Some leaders use the scouts as props in a military LARP, and others just go camping.

The founder, Lord Baden-Powell, from what I know of him, was of the LARP persuasion.
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Old 08-29-2017, 01:40 PM   #24
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As a kid, I always assumed they were proto-fascist...
As a kid I was not aware proto-fascists existed.

As a 50 year old man, I don't know what the fuck a proto-fascist even is.

I wonder how many 15 year olds know what a proto-fascist is, or even how to spell it.

I wonder how many 15 year olds 30 years ago knew what a proto-fascist was?

If I had a teenage kid, and he/she knew what a proto-fascist was, I think I'd take him/her to the vet and have him/her put down.
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Old 08-29-2017, 03:19 PM   #25
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As a kid, I thought they were dorks. But ROTC, yeah I figured they were all proto-fascist, or whatever I thought that was at the time.
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Old 08-29-2017, 03:22 PM   #26
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As a kid I was not aware proto-fascists existed.

As a 50 year old man, I don't know what the fuck a proto-fascist even is.

I wonder how many 15 year olds know what a proto-fascist is, or even how to spell it.

I wonder how many 15 year olds 30 years ago knew what a proto-fascist was?

If I had a teenage kid, and he/she knew what a proto-fascist was, I think I'd take him/her to the vet and have him/her put down.
But that 15 year old could think they were something that was off kilter and years later learn a term that he can retrospectively apply because it totally fits what he wasn't able to fully articulate as a teen.
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Old 08-29-2017, 04:15 PM   #27
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I had to google it.
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Old 08-29-2017, 04:17 PM   #28
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As a kid, I thought they were dorks. But ROTC, yeah I figured they were all proto-fascist, or whatever I thought that was at the time.
I was in ROTC in High School, and I'm about as far from fascist as they come.
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Old 08-29-2017, 05:32 PM   #29
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Mind you I believe marching band is a paramilitary organization.
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Old 08-29-2017, 06:00 PM   #30
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What a coincidence, some people in the military think military bands are paramilitary too.
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