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Old 09-27-2019, 08:55 AM   #2566
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The time of the reformation is at hand.



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Old 09-27-2019, 09:38 AM   #2567
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Yikes! Living in a red "have not" district this ain't good.
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Old 09-27-2019, 10:29 AM   #2568
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Seems to me the fastest way to balance that chart would be for the red districts to stop voting red...
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Old 09-27-2019, 10:42 AM   #2569
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It's less about voting red than being committed to an area or region that does not factor into the current economic system. Being conservative seems to make someone less likely to want to pick up and move out of a dying town. They've committed themselves to a way of life they were taught would be, through hard work, rewarded. They were taught the lessons of 1950.
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Old 09-27-2019, 02:22 PM   #2570
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Sure, but a lot of the current economic system is due to red mainstays like tax benefits for big corporations. I mean, I live in a big blue town that has experienced consistent growth and even continued to build (and rapidly sell) new homes right through the housing crash as if it never happened--so I guess it shouldn't bother me. I'd personally rather small-town America didn't die, but if they keep shooting themselves in the face on election day there's not a lot I can do.

It's not just that they were lied to; it's that they're being lied to to this day and they still haven't figured it out.
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Old 09-27-2019, 02:58 PM   #2571
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They are cutting their own throats... I'm about one pro-lifer moral authority meme from moving to a blue state.
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Old 09-27-2019, 03:21 PM   #2572
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you guys they are in the room and they can hear you
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Old 09-27-2019, 03:22 PM   #2573
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True. I try to be better and then I'm not.
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Old 09-27-2019, 03:46 PM   #2574
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It's the reformation at hand, man --

The idea that it's the poor people's fault they are poor is a very old one; and, as the wheels are turning, surprising to begin to hear it from the left.
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Old 09-27-2019, 04:15 PM   #2575
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damn, I been got.

I've been trying to sort this out through the lens of close family stuff seeing the conservative kids getting sketchy career advice from their parents but I completely ignored the child of liberals I was with last night who's been getting sketchy career advice. Nobody knows how to stay afloat in this economy, we're all guessing.
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Old 09-27-2019, 04:23 PM   #2576
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Wull now I feel bad. Sorry.
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Old 09-27-2019, 04:32 PM   #2577
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Don't be, I start generalizing and recognizing only what I assume I should see. That's poor mental hygiene.
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Old 09-28-2019, 10:25 PM   #2578
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It's less about voting red than being committed to an area or region that does not factor into the current economic system.


Fuck those fucking fuckers.
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Old 09-29-2019, 12:00 AM   #2579
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I don't think Tom Joad and family packing up and heading for silicon valley is going to help. The answer is finding a way to make the Joads prosperous where they are.
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Old 09-29-2019, 06:01 AM   #2580
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The DNC was sent a memo about that in 2016
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