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Old 07-06-2019, 02:01 PM   #901
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Old 07-08-2019, 10:56 AM   #902
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See This Old Plane? (F-104 Starfighter)

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It Killed 4 F-15s In Simulated Battles in the Sky

TL;DR? Technology does not necessarily triumph over age/experience/tactics every time.

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Old 07-08-2019, 12:29 PM   #903
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Old 07-08-2019, 12:30 PM   #904
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When I were a lad, I attended an airshow at RAF Upper Heyford which, despite the name, was a USAF station.

Aircraft from several NATO nations were displayed in the air and on the ground.

An F-104 (Italian Air Force?) was in the static display with large pieces of paper (for the sake of conspicuity) attached to the leading edge of the wings.

They were so sharp that you almost ran the risk of decapitation should you be unfortunate enough to come into contact with them.

I remember an extremely worried looking USAF member spending all his time keeping people a safe distance from danger.

These days you'd be kept 50 yards away behind a barrier.
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Old 07-08-2019, 07:34 PM   #905
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As I just mis-posted in the badger thread, I wonder if precautions around the thin leading edge of F104's were more to protect damage TO rather than FROM.
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Old 07-09-2019, 03:32 AM   #906
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I wonder if precautions around the thin leading edge of F104's were more to protect damage TO rather than FROM.
In this instance the danger was from the leading edge rather than the other way on.

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With the wings mounted mid-fuselage, they would be at about head level and ground crews would frequently bump their heads on the wings, especially with their thin profile.
Although the edge was not as sharp as a knife, or even dull scissors, the injuries prompted the Air Force to install leading edge guards on the wings, while the plane was on the ground.
That would prevent injuries…
Presumably, as a visiting aircraft, leading edge guards weren't available so they had to improvise with paper and tape!

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Note the leading edge protector on the left of the picture.
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Old 07-13-2019, 12:33 AM   #907
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Henry's Fliver...
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Old 07-29-2019, 12:34 AM   #908
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Old 07-31-2019, 02:59 PM   #909
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I went by the EAA airshow in Oshkosh WI a bit ago. Unfortunately, no semi parking, as usual so I didn't get to stop and explore or take any pictures. I know LC from our dim history was there but alas, no meetup either.

I did, however, get treated to a low and loud flyover by two F4U Corsairs which were overnighting at a nearby airport when I finally did stop. While walking the dog in the morning, I heard the distinctive growl of two R-2800 radials winding up and taking off. I saw them as they cleared the treeline, climbing and turning north towards Oshkosh, so I assume they were heading there. Be still my fluttering heart!

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Old 07-31-2019, 03:41 PM   #910
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BV 141 better have a hefty rudder.
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Old 07-31-2019, 04:10 PM   #911
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Another from the Mach Loop but with a difference.

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Flying the flag

A United States Air Force F-15E Strike Eagle fighter jet, based at RAF Lakenheath, Suffolk, displays the Welsh flag in the cockpit, as the plane flies at speeds of up to 600mph through the valleys in the Snowdonia National Park in North Wales.
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I think that the quoted speed of 600mph is overstated.
I'm pretty sure that the limit is 450 knots (520mph).
Still PD fast!
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Old 08-01-2019, 11:16 AM   #912
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There is not a lot of that plane in front of the pilot, but behind, WHOA!
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Old 08-02-2019, 02:05 AM   #913
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That's the trouble these days, whippersnappers zipping through the park to check it off on they're to-do list.
Nobody stopping to smell the flowers or feed the squirrels.
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Old 08-02-2019, 05:21 AM   #914
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Also from Lakenheath, a different airframe but still with a Welsh flag and the chap in the back appears to be emulating Slim Pickens in Dr Strangelove.

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Old 08-02-2019, 11:46 AM   #915
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It is obviously up to the job, but the nose gear looks kinda fragile.
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