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Old 09-12-2007, 12:21 PM   #121
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if you replace coffee with the green tea then its very beneficial. It provides you far more then the coffee provides you.
What about all the fluoride it provides?
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Old 09-12-2007, 12:23 PM   #122
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Old 09-12-2007, 12:31 PM   #123
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Old 09-12-2007, 12:57 PM   #124
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Pure ambrosia in a cup. I like african coffees the best personally, but a friend of mine recently suggested switching to an asian coffee during the winter. They're richer and have a deeper flavor, but a little overwhelming if you prefer lighter and more complex flavors.
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Old 09-12-2007, 01:47 PM   #125
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I enjoy coffee.
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Old 09-12-2007, 01:49 PM   #126
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I enjoy coffee.
That's not the question, you middle-of-the-road pansy. Things have to be GOOD or EVIL!
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Old 09-13-2007, 05:20 AM   #127
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I have to say evil, purely from the caffeine content.
My GP suggested I cut out all caffeine to help me sleep, so I switched to de-caff tea (no taste difference) and I can't get excited about instant de-caff coffee so I've just given it up totally.

I don't really enjoy caffeine buzz anyway - it feels like my head is big and echo-y and I twitch like a bastard.
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Old 09-13-2007, 10:07 AM   #128
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I drink coffee on ice all day long. Probably too much...
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Old 09-13-2007, 10:39 AM   #129
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I'm immune to caffeine. I drink diet coke and coffee all day long. I do have occasional problems sleeping but it seems unrelated to caffeine consumption; drinking more or less in a given day does not coincide with sleeplessness, though my stress of that day will.

I mean, we gotta give up cigarettes, and drinks, and pot, and sex, and preservatives and processed flour products, and any food that tastes good. Caffeine will be my last bastion of viceness!
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Old 09-13-2007, 12:09 PM   #130
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I mean, we gotta give up cigarettes, and drinks, and pot, and sex, and preservatives and processed flour products, and any food that tastes good.
What?!? What the hell Shawnee? I thought we were friends?!? What talk is this- as soon as I saw it- I knew this thread was no good....but now this?


The question is not whether coffee is good or evil....The question is: is asking that question born of pure evil? To cast doubt where none is deserved like that? This is irresponsible slander! Why is this thread so long? What is to discuss here?
Is Shawnee good or evil?
See how that works?!?

I'm going to go see who started this nonsense! Not only is this slanderous- but since it has been posted for the whole world to see on the internet- it is libel!
You can take my life and my liberty but I will be damned to the rankest and darkest level of hell before you get my java.
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Old 09-13-2007, 12:21 PM   #131
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I'm immune to caffeine. I drink diet coke and coffee all day long. I do have occasional problems sleeping but it seems unrelated to caffeine consumption; drinking more or less in a given day does not coincide with sleeplessness, though my stress of that day will.


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What are the effects of Caffeinism (caffeine overdose)?

As you have learned before Caffeine stimulates the central nervous system and can produce other effects through out the rest of the body. The symptoms of a caffeine overdose ("caffeinism") varies according to individual differences and the amount consumed. Doses ranging from 250 to 750 mg (2 to 7 cups of coffee) can produce restlessness, nausea, headache, tense muscles, sleep disturbances, and irregular heart beats it can also cause Anorexia. Doses of over 750 mg (7 cups of coffee) can produce a reaction similar to an anxiety attack, including delirium, ringing ears, and light flashes. These amounts of caffeine may come from a single dose or from many doses in a short period of time.


What are the long term effects that Caffeine can produce?

ULCERS is believed to be caused partially by Caffeine because Caffeine increases the secretion of acids and pepsin in the stomach, which could increase an already existing ulcer. But it isn't definite that Caffeine is responsible for this, tests were done that proved that both caffeinated and decaffeinated coffee inflamed ulcers. HEART PROBLEMS more seriously can be caused by Caffeine. Caffeine has been shown to cause cardiac arrhythmia's (irregular heartbeats) in certain people; often people with heart disease are told to avoid caffeine altogether. However, no evidence shows that caffeine is a causative factor in the development of heart disease.
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Old 09-13-2007, 12:34 PM   #132
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Beats the massive heart attack I could have suffered by now.

~snip~Coffee is Good For Most People – Reduces Risk For Heart Disease Parkinsons And Diabetes – Antioxidants Can Reduce Inflammation



A new study suggests that coffee can reduce the risk of inflammation and cardiovascular disease. This is more good news for coffee drinkers. Researchers have known that both coffee and tea are high in antioxidants which help remove unstable molecules in your body called free radicals.

Free radicals contribute to the oxidative process and over time can cause inflammation and other unhealthy changes in your cells. This study involved 27,000 postmenopausal women and concluded that by inhibiting inflammation, the drink will also inhibit cardiovascular disease.


The February issue of Mayo Clinic Women’s HealthSource examines many beneficial aspects of coffee. Besides lowering the risk of heart disease, coffee, especially decaffeinated coffee, can reduce the risk of type 2 diabetes.



Coffee will also provide “brain protection”. Researchers assessed 890 older women and found that coffee can help cognitive skills including thinking, memory and comprehension. This could be because of the long-term caffeine exposure.

Coffee can also reduce the risk of Parkinson’s disease. Moderate to high level consumption of coffee decreased the risk of Parkinson’s in women. But this was not the case for all women. For example, the Nurses’ Health Study also showed that high levels of caffeine -- six or more cups a day -- increased the risk of Parkinson’s in women who used hormone therapy.

There are some negative consequences to coffee consumption. Too much caffeine can cause restlessness, anxiety, irritability, tremors, sleeplessness, headaches, gastrointestinal symptoms and abnormal heart rhythms. Caffeine can also raise blood pressure.

The researchers say that for most people, “it appears that a moderate daily intake of coffee (two to four cups) doesn’t seem to hurt and may even help.



By Jeffrey Workman
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Old 09-13-2007, 12:35 PM   #133
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Still waiting for it to cause Anorexia.

And on that note, I think I'll go grab another cup!
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Old 09-14-2007, 08:15 AM   #134
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Caffeine is how coffee berries resist insect pests: they eat of them and a dose of caffeine blows out their little nervous systems.

If we were the size of ants it'd do the same to ours.
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Old 09-14-2007, 08:35 AM   #135
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so that's what happened to "Them."
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