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05-04-2004, 01:22 PM | #106 | |
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What with the appeals process, DNA testing, and the like, PROVEN murderers rarely get executed. Sidhe
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05-04-2004, 01:39 PM | #107 | |
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The execution of innocents isn't something to "fall back on". It is the most immediate and practical problem with the death penalty. Arguing the fundamental morality of the death penalty can be interesting, but it is moot while innocents are on death row.
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05-04-2004, 01:42 PM | #108 | |
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I enjoy debating a topic such as this, but when you blur the boundaries between opinion and fact then smear the opposition on top of it without provocation, a debate ceases being a debate. It becomes a shit-throwing festival. |
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05-04-2004, 01:45 PM | #109 | |
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05-04-2004, 01:48 PM | #110 | |
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I'm not sure exactly what you mean by that. What I'm saying is that the antis' basic argument is that an innocent person might be executed; the pros' basic argument is that an executed murderer will never kill again. Where's the shit-throwing? Sidhe
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05-04-2004, 01:52 PM | #111 | |
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My life is so unbelievably boring that if ever I were accused of murder, I think I'd die of a heart attack before I got to trial. Seriously...if OJ can't get convicted when there is ungodly amounts of DNA evidence to prove his guilt, then I think little carless ol' me won't have a problem. What are they gonna say I did? WALKED to the crime scene, killed someone just for shits and giggles, then walked home? I'm WAAAY too lazy to put forth that much effort, and I've got a busload of people who will testify to that (right, TS?) If that doesn't work, I'll just say they're attacking me because I'm a Native American female. I'm sure somebody'll jump on the race and gender bandwagon. They always do. Besides, one has a choice between a jury trial and a bench trial. You think I'd be stupid enough to put my fate in the hands of 12 people who weren't smart enough to get out of jury duty? Sidhe
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05-04-2004, 02:02 PM | #112 | |
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If people are so concerned with the idea that innocent people may be executed, then why don't they start a fund to do DNA testing on these people (or whatever they think will clear them)? DO something about it, and then we can execute the ones who AREN'T innocent. Besides, unless you have an eyewitness to the murder, there's NEVER going to be a 100% certainty. You can't ask for 100%, because we don't have the technology to facilitate that...yet. Like those kids in England. They're guilty. Everyone knows they're guilty. Charles Manson is guilty, and everyone knows it (for those who say that he never actually killed someone, the law says that if you hire a killer, or otherwise cause a person to be killed, that you are guilty of murder as well). If we know the individual(s) is/are guilty, where's the problem? Sidhe
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05-04-2004, 02:26 PM | #113 |
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Here's a little info I found:
This year, Sen. Patrick Leahy (D-VT), and Rep. William Delahunt (D-MA), introduced the "Innocence Protection Act" (H.R. 912 and S. 486), a bill that would provide new safeguards in capital cases. 234 Representatives, and 25 Senators have cosponsored the House and Senate Bills respectively. For more info on this, here's a website: http://www.nacdl.org/public.nsf/legi...A?OpenDocument Here are some stats on race, as of Jan 01, 2002: Race--Number--Percent White-- 1,701 -- 46.71% Black -- 1,562 -- 42.77% Hispanic-- 312 -- 8.54% Native American -- 45 -- 1.23% Asian -- 32 -- 0.88% The average time between sentencing and execution is 9 & 1/2 years. Sidhe
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05-04-2004, 02:30 PM | #114 | |
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Wolf said: (There are two kinds of justice: Regular or Extra Crispy) Precisely. LS: If we know the individual(s) is/are guilty, where's the problem? Hell, I don't see any. Let the executions begin.
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If you were savagely murdered, I would not want that person to receive the death penalty.
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