Iran's presidental elections

piercehawkeye45 · 06-10-2009, 03:16 PM

The following link gives a decent overview of the four potential candidates. Mahmoud Ahmadinejad and Mir Hossein Mousavi, a reformist, are the two leading candidates but neither are shown as a clear front-runner.

As for foreign policy, all three opposing candidates have expressed disagreements with Ahmadinejad's foreign policy so there should be change in regards to that no matter who wins. All four candidates are going to continue the nuclear program and neither of the four have openly declared the need for military action against Israel.

http://www.foreignpolicy.com/story/c...?story_id=4989

Two articles about the election process in Iran:
http://www.cfr.org/publication/19593...breadcrumb=%2F
http://www.cfr.org/publication/19494...breadcrumb=%2F

Article about Mousavi's influence of the Iranian youth population:
http://www.foreignpolicy.com/story/c...id=4988&page=0

DeepOne · 06-12-2009, 12:39 AM

From all the demonstrations it looks like they're going to vote Ahmadinejad right out of there.

classicman · 06-12-2009, 08:25 AM

Perhaps, but he is not really the one in power - The clerics rule. If he is replaced, it will simply be the same book with a new cover.

piercehawkeye45 · 06-12-2009, 07:31 PM

Like Obama.

TheMercenary · 06-12-2009, 07:33 PM

I wonder when the results will be released.

DeepOne · 06-12-2009, 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by piercehawkeye45

Like Obama.

How?

ZenGum · 06-13-2009, 12:29 AM

Supporters of both sides are claiming victory. This could get ... interesting ... And my mum is scheduled to go there for 2+ weeks (of tourism) starting late July. Hmmmm.

xoxoxoBruce · 06-13-2009, 04:42 AM

Pictures

NYT updates

piercehawkeye45 · 06-13-2009, 11:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeepOne

How?

No US president can really do much to change anything because they do not hold absolute power. Even if Obama wanted to drastically change the United States, he would be attacked from all sides and nothing would be accomplished. That is also assuming that Obama did want "change", and was not just saying that to get elected (hint, the latter is true or else he would not be a legitimate candidate).

Obama is just using (attempting to use?) a time tested technique, change just enough to be able to say you did something but not enough to get the people with power really pissed off.

As for Iran, it seems that Mahmoud Ahmadinejad has been declared the victor but I'm pretty sure everyone suspects foul play. Iran is slowly liberalizing and as long as a big event doesn't happen, I would hopefully expect a shift towards more secular and democratic Iran in the next few decades. It is their battle.

Bullitt · 06-13-2009, 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by piercehawkeye45

As for Iran, it seems that Mahmoud Ahmadinejad has been declared the victor but I'm pretty sure everyone suspects foul play.

Social stability is deteriorating over the election results: "Correspondents say the violence is the worst seen in Tehran in a decade "

xoxoxoBruce · 06-13-2009, 02:05 PM

Worst in a decade? I thought Iran had clamped down pretty tight on any sort of protests, for way longer than a decade?

piercehawkeye45 · 06-13-2009, 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Bullitt

Social stability is deteriorating over the election results: "Correspondents say the violence is the worst seen in Tehran in a decade "

It will be a long tough battle but hopefully changes result from these social movements. That is how real social change occurs. My hat goes off to them.

Kitsune · 06-13-2009, 09:46 PM

...and CNN's headline at the moment: "Six Flags Filing for Bankruptcy"

Lots of communications cut, including SMS and some internet, but some video and photos are finding their way out.

Kitsune · 06-13-2009, 09:50 PM

Undertoad · 06-13-2009, 11:07 PM

Sources are reporting that this is street protest against Ahmadinejad being announced winner. The people believe the election is a fraud. Michael Totten says that, in the first vid Kit posted, the people are chanting "Death to the government!"

06-10-2009, 03:16 PM	#1
piercehawkeye45 Franklin Pierce Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Minnesota Posts: 3,695	Iran's presidental elections The following link gives a decent overview of the four potential candidates. Mahmoud Ahmadinejad and Mir Hossein Mousavi, a reformist, are the two leading candidates but neither are shown as a clear front-runner. As for foreign policy, all three opposing candidates have expressed disagreements with Ahmadinejad's foreign policy so there should be change in regards to that no matter who wins. All four candidates are going to continue the nuclear program and neither of the four have openly declared the need for military action against Israel. http://www.foreignpolicy.com/story/c...?story_id=4989 Two articles about the election process in Iran: http://www.cfr.org/publication/19593...breadcrumb=%2F http://www.cfr.org/publication/19494...breadcrumb=%2F Article about Mousavi's influence of the Iranian youth population: http://www.foreignpolicy.com/story/c...id=4988&page=0 __________________ I like my perspectives like I like my baseball caps: one size fits all.

06-12-2009, 08:25 AM	#3
classicman barely disguised asshole, keeper of all that is holy. Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 23,401	Perhaps, but he is not really the one in power - The clerics rule. If he is replaced, it will simply be the same book with a new cover. __________________ "like strapping a pillow on a bull in a china shop" Bullitt

06-12-2009, 07:31 PM	#4
piercehawkeye45 Franklin Pierce Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Minnesota Posts: 3,695	Like Obama. __________________ I like my perspectives like I like my baseball caps: one size fits all.

06-12-2009, 07:33 PM	#5
TheMercenary “Hypocrisy: prejudice with a halo” Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Savannah, Georgia Posts: 21,393	I wonder when the results will be released. __________________ Anyone but the this most fuked up President in History in 2012!

06-13-2009, 12:29 AM	#7
ZenGum Doctor Wtf Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Badelaide, Baustralia Posts: 12,861	Supporters of both sides are claiming victory. This could get ... interesting ... And my mum is scheduled to go there for 2+ weeks (of tourism) starting late July. Hmmmm. __________________ Shut up and hug. MoreThanPretty, Nov 5, 2008. Just because I'm nominally polite, does not make me a pussy. Sundae Girl.

06-12-2009, 12:39 AM	#2
DeepOne Squeebie Fleebie Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 19	From all the demonstrations it looks like they're going to vote Ahmadinejad right out of there.

06-13-2009, 04:42 AM	#8
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06-13-2009, 02:05 PM	#11
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	Worst in a decade? I thought Iran had clamped down pretty tight on any sort of protests, for way longer than a decade? __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

06-13-2009, 09:46 PM	#13
Kitsune still eats dirt Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Tampa, FL Posts: 3,031	...and CNN's headline at the moment: "Six Flags Filing for Bankruptcy" Lots of communications cut, including SMS and some internet, but some video and photos are finding their way out. Last edited by Kitsune; 06-13-2009 at 10:00 PM.

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06-13-2009, 11:07 PM	#15
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	Sources are reporting that this is street protest against Ahmadinejad being announced winner. The people believe the election is a fraud. Michael Totten says that, in the first vid Kit posted, the people are chanting "Death to the government!"

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