The Pharmaceutical Industry

[Undertoad]

I tried everything for chronic panic and anxiety attacks. Exercise, breath control, herbal remedies, meditation, eating differently. All of this had no effect, placebo or otherwise. Only 15mg of Paxil solved the problem, and has now solved it for 13 years, allowing me to live a normal life.

[Flint]

Originally Posted by Undertoad

...allowing me to live a normal life.

Dude, I don't think it's working!

[DeepOne]

Originally Posted by Undertoad

I tried everything for chronic panic and anxiety attacks. Exercise, breath control, herbal remedies, meditation, eating differently. All of this had no effect, placebo or otherwise. Only 15mg of Paxil solved the problem, and has now solved it for 13 years, allowing me to live a normal life.

Sometimes the drugs do what they're intended to do.
It's when they're prescribed for things that they're not intended for that we run into problems.

ex- preparation H is not best used for a headache

[glatt]

sometimes off-label uses are just fine though. A good example is using extra doses of birth control pills as a "morning after" pill back before the morning after pill was available.

[Shawnee123]

"Do not drink alcohol with this medication."

My dad said "that's just a SUGGESTION."



And, uh, seriously glatt? That hardly seems safe?

[DeepOne]

Originally Posted by glatt

sometimes off-label uses are just fine though. A good example is using extra doses of birth control pills as a "morning after" pill back before the morning after pill was available.

This sounds like an incredibly dumb idea.

[DeepOne]

Similar to my friend having "lady problems" and instead of going to the doctor she just takes whatever amount of Belladonna cause you know, "it was in a gelcap it's safe"

then her pancreas failed.

OOPS!

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by DeepOne

This sounds like an incredibly dumb idea.

Actually it is an accepted use of BCP.

[DeepOne]

By whom and do you have a link?

[glatt]

Originally Posted by TheMercenary

Actually it is an accepted use of BCP.

Back when I read about it ten or fifteen years ago, it was an accepted use by doctors, but was still off label.

There's a specific formula and dosage to follow, and your doctor can tell you what it is, but it's safe.

[Shawnee123]

A close friend's mom read in a ladies magazine back in the day (way back) that you could do the same thing chemically. She tragically died.

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by glatt

Back when I read about it ten or fifteen years ago, it was an accepted use by doctors, but was still off label.

There's a specific formula and dosage to follow, and your doctor can tell you what it is, but it's safe.

It is still used today.

[TheMercenary]

It is known as Plan B and is still in wide use today.

The morning-after pill — a form of emergency birth control — is used to prevent a woman from becoming pregnant after she has had unprotected sex. Morning-after pills are generally considered safe, but many women are unaware that they exist.

Here's how the morning-after pill works. Human conception rarely occurs immediately after intercourse. Instead, it occurs as long as several days later, after ovulation. During the time between intercourse and conception, sperm continue to travel through the fallopian tube until the egg appears. So taking emergency birth control the "morning after" isn't too late to prevent pregnancy.

The active ingredients in morning-after pills are similar to those in birth control pills, except in higher doses. Some morning-after pills contain only one hormone, levonorgestrel (Plan B), and others contain two, progestin and estrogen. Progestin prevents the sperm from reaching the egg and keeps a fertilized egg from attaching to the wall of the uterus (implantation). Estrogen stops the ovaries from releasing eggs (ovulation) that can be fertilized by sperm.

The morning-after pill is designed to be taken within 72 hours of intercourse with a second dose taken 12 hours later. Side effects may include nausea, vomiting, abdominal pain, fatigue, dizziness, menstrual changes and headache. According to the manufacturer, the morning-after pill is more than 80 percent effective in preventing pregnancy after a single act of unprotected sex.

Morning-after pills aren't the same as mifepristone (Mifeprex), the so-called abortion pill. Emergency contraceptive pills such as Plan B prevent pregnancy. The abortion pill terminates an established pregnancy — one in which the fertilized egg has attached to the uterine wall and has already begun to develop.

Plan B is available to women and girls age 17 and older without a prescription at most pharmacies. You must show proof of age to purchase Plan B. For girls age 16 and younger, Plan B is available only with a doctor's prescription.

http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/mor...r-pill/AN00592

[glatt]

Huh, occording to wikipedia, this off label use of regular birth control pills is approved by the FDA. So it's off label, but it's more than just understood by doctors to be OK, it's actually gov't approved.

"The combined or Yuzpe regimen uses large doses of both estrogen and progestin, taken as two doses at a 12-hour interval. This method is now believed to be less effective and less well-tolerated than the progestin-only method.[4] It is possible to obtain the same dosage of hormones, and therefore the same effect, by taking several regular combined oral contraceptive pills. For example, 4 Ovral pills are the same as 4 Preven pills.[5][6] The United States Food and Drug Administration (FDA) approved this off-label use of certain brands of regular combined oral contraceptive pills in 1997.[2][5][7]"

If I recall correctly, any birth control pills will work, you just have to know which pills of the month to take, so you get the ones with the proper hormone levels.

[Shawnee123]

Sounds risky, but what do I know?