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Old 08-19-2019, 12:40 AM   #586
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We waited 13 years for this album. A few weeks sounds fine.

I'll be here
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Old 08-20-2019, 04:26 PM   #587
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That song is very, very Tool.

I like. Like a lot of Tool's stuff.

I could've ID'd it as Tool right when the drums came in.
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Old 08-21-2019, 11:35 AM   #588
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I'm waiting for a good time to zone out and focus on listening to this with nobody else in the room.
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Old 08-27-2019, 09:16 PM   #589
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How about now?
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Old 08-27-2019, 10:38 PM   #590
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This needs to go the fuck away. There's a woman called Sylvia at pottery this semester. Every time I think about pottery....

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Old 08-28-2019, 03:25 PM   #591
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One of my buddy's favorite songs...
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Old 08-30-2019, 03:00 PM   #592
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Speaking of snares doing their job, ...
Wanna get your dick knocked off by a snare drum, listen to the album version of the Eagles-- I Can't Tell You Why. ( can't find a copy on YouTube )

That snare drum sounds like it will move your woofer cone.
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Old 08-30-2019, 03:12 PM   #593
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A little digging and people seem to think Don Henley was using a Ludwig 402 Supraphonic. That's a 14" x 6.5" in chrome-plated aluminum.
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Old 08-30-2019, 08:24 PM   #594
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Listening now on Spotify, it's a remaster but the sound is still pretty huge.

It makes the song feel like it's dragging a little. We have to wait for the decay to move along
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Old 08-31-2019, 03:25 AM   #595
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I watched a video about professional sounding back beats needing to have high velocity at the tip of the stick. Which means on a slow track like this, you have to massively delay executing the strike, because you'll be whipping the stick into the snare to get the high velocity needed for a back that has conviction. It's almost like ballet, the movements you do with your body to get your stick in the right place at the right time. I'm a big fan of "dancing" behind the kit.
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Old 08-31-2019, 03:29 AM   #596
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And yes, Lumber Jim, the Tool track was a real trip to listen to. It's all about a progression of textures getting layered on each other in a sequence that paints a mental picture. Hearing the track for the first time I didn't know where they were going when an instrument began the first phase of a new part coming in, but then once the momentum built up it made perfect sense. And I wondered, is this what listening to this band was always like? I just don't remember hearing a Tool song that I didn't already know where the parts were going.
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Old 08-31-2019, 10:10 AM   #597
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They always have seemed to creep up on me too. I'm liking it more and more. The hooks are more subtle on this new album... But they're there.
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Old 08-31-2019, 01:04 PM   #598
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...a progression of textures getting layered on each other in a sequence...
Layers. On top of layers.

That describes Tool, overall, pretty well.

This last album uses a lot of track time to build some of those layers. Tool has (or seems to have) always had long tracks, but I was still a little surprised at how long these tracks are. And the number of long tracks.
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Old 09-06-2019, 04:29 PM   #599
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They always have seemed to creep up on me too. .
You know how some songs have a cool intro that is, like conceptually disconnected from the real beginning of the song, and when the song comes in it's unexpected, because the 1 isn't where you thought it was going to be, or something?

I think Tool tries to do that over and over and over, the whole song. You never know what's coming up, it's unexpected every time.
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Old 09-10-2019, 06:45 PM   #600
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Here's a song where all the chords and important stuff in the intro and chorus section happens directly on the 1 (count ONE two-three, ONE two-three). It's a "symphony in 1" where the harmonies between the guitar chords and bass notes is strong enough to carry everything. The second half of the song d i s i n t e g r a t e s for two minutes.

Like all my favorite albums, this was their last one before breaking up.



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Are you weary of the lengthening days?
Do you secretly wish for November's rain,
and the harvest moon to wane in the sky?
There is nothing in this world more bitter than spring...

And I wrote you this letter
'cause the clothes were hung on the line,
and the crows flew out of the field and up into the sky...
I'm lying here in the station,
stretching out on the tracks
are all the possible places that I might arrive.

There is nothing in this world more bitter than love,
in all those long days of June.
Bring me the long brown grass, now that it's dry...
There is nothing in this world more bitter than spring.
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