Vegan couple sentenced to life over baby's death

[HungLikeJesus]

Not to start a new debate, but... designed by whom?

[DanaC]

I think that's a question best answered by the Pastafarians.

[Undertoad]

I the spirit of Douglas Adams I offer Toadatarianism.

Under my philosophy, farm animals are fulfilling their highest desires by dying to be food. With their limited mental capability, all they can understand is that their entire meaning in life has been to be fatted for the knife. Their kind has been specifically raised for this purpose for so long - centuries, sometimes - that no other meaning matters. In fact, most such beings could not exist in the wild any longer, having been bred to be et. There's no such thing as a wild cow, and the wild turkey doesn't resemble its farm cousin at all.

For them not to fulfill their meaning in life is a horrible end... incomprehensible, really. Every time we eat meat we help the farm animals to fulfill their very destiny. It is an act of giving.

[HungLikeJesus]

The vegetarians and fruitarians are messing up the food chain, especially the fruitarians. They're going to upset the entire ecological balance of the planet.

My motto is "Eat more meat. Give animals a shot at a short, happy life." (On the billboard, I'd have sad-eyed cows, pigs and chickens.)

Every animal that you don't eat means one less animal that gets to be born, to have the opportunity to live a happy barnyard life.

[Pie]

Originally Posted by monster

Vegetarians will not eat or use products that involve the death of or pain/cruelty infliced on the animal. Milk, Eggs and cheese are OK if they are harvested within these guidelines.

There are as many interpretations of the word "vegetarian" as there are vegetarians! The one I was raised with was: Don't eat anything that is an animal or can become an animal.

Thus, milk and honey are okay to eat, but eggs are not.

[Ibby]

If you ask me, if a fetus ain't alive, an unfertilized egg sure as hell ain't. Fair game.

I dont eat fish; it's just as alive as a cow is. My sister, who's also vegetarian, does eat fish.

[Pie]

Oh, a fetus is alive; it just isn't a person. But hey, let's not get into that one again.

[piercehawkeye45]

*slams rum bottle on counter*

Oh......damn.

Originally Posted by monster

Vegetarians will not eat or use products that involve the death of or pain/cruelty infliced on the animal. Milk, Eggs and cheese are OK if they are harvested within these guidelines. Vegans will not eat/use anything from an animal, believing that animals should not suffer to provide food for humans, and that all farming methods induce suffering of some form because the animal is not living 'naturally". Humans are not considered animals in this respect. It is not against vegan or vegitarian principles to recieve organ donations, blood donations or drink (human) breast milk. Reason being, the humans involved are able to consent and no suffering is involved.

Fruitarians believe that plants are also able to suffer, so one should only eat that which is "willingly given" for consumption i.e. fruit. Fruit is designed to be eaten to ensure propagation, so it is OK. So is breastmilk, which is designed to be drunk by the baby to ensure growth. The giver is not damaged by either.

I was vegan for years, it had nothing to do with empathy for animals. That is a myth.
Fish is meat.

[Happy Monkey]

It's not a myth. People don't have myths about why you were vegan.

If it wasn't for the animals, what was your reason?

[Cloud]

many people do it for health reasons, I think