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Undertoad · 09-06-2016, 07:12 AM

Oh, you seem to believe that preseason is useful as an indicator of how real games are going to go.

lumberjim · 09-06-2016, 07:42 AM

Not really. I look more at individual performance. I think Chase Daniel lost the starting job more than anything. He took 4 sacks in the first half because he held the ball too long.

Undertoad · 09-06-2016, 08:36 AM

Doug Pederson was Daniel's QB coach last year. He's an entirely known quantity. There's no need to evaluate him in preseason.

lumberjim · 09-06-2016, 09:48 AM

Then why play him at all?

Undertoad · 09-06-2016, 11:07 AM

For all the reasons there is a preseason... to train the playbook, establish unity, and evaluate everyone on the field who does need evaluatin'.

The way I see it, outcomes don't matter... but the film does... so he may be instructed to stay in the pocket and take hits, because the point of a quarter is to figure out if the guards are going to be able to do a certain kind of pull or trap or whatever it is they need to do. We don't know what the point of these plays are, which is why I don't care about preseason

Chase Daniel is QB Doug Pederson in 1999, brought in because he is a known quantity, understands Pederson's system, will coach the whiz kid, and most importantly: become a backup and happily take that role. Something Sammy did not do...

lumberjim · 09-06-2016, 11:25 AM

Instructed to stay in the pocket and take hits? A guy you're paying 7mil? Neh.

You don't pull or trap in pass protection. Well, screen passes, but that's not what they were doing. He either lacked the confidence in his receivers or they are not getting open even a little. This is just one game. The offense managed what, 3 points?

But then Wentz has played zero snaps with the first string, so he didn't really have a pre season.

You guys went 4-0 last year too.

What's your prediction for this year's record?

Undertoad · 09-06-2016, 12:05 PM

This is 1999, so 5-11

Quote:

A guy you're paying 7mil? Neh

Why ELSE would you pay that to a career backup QB in their 7th year? Because he knows the Pederson/Reid system cold, and will take those hits, coach the kid, and smile when he's not named starter. Last year you could have Tebow do that...

classicman · 09-06-2016, 04:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Undertoad

This is 1999, so 5-11

Hey! That's my number.

captainhook455 · 09-06-2016, 09:42 PM

Don't make me tell the 69 joke.

tarheel

Gravdigr · 09-06-2016, 10:45 PM

Tell the 69 joke.

lumberjim · 09-06-2016, 11:08 PM

:twists your arm:

fargon · 09-07-2016, 05:40 AM

Please tell the 69 joke.

captainhook455 · 09-07-2016, 09:23 AM

A man went to a house of ill repute. Told the madam he wanted something different. He had done everything. She named a few things and he said he had done those. Did you ever 69? No I don't believe I have.
So he goes to a room, takes his clothes off and gets into the position with a pretty young woman. They going at it and he is happy. Couple minutes go by and phsst, she farts in his face. Whoa. God, what did she eat? The air clears and he is going at it again.
Phsst. Oh no, stop right now he says, dear girl I do like what we doing and all, but I don't think I can take another 67 of them.

tarheel

Gravdigr · 09-07-2016, 02:04 PM

Sir, I thank you.

fargon · 09-07-2016, 02:24 PM

Thank You Sir!

09-06-2016, 07:42 AM	#707
lumberjim I can hear my ears Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 25,571	Not really. I look more at individual performance. I think Chase Daniel lost the starting job more than anything. He took 4 sacks in the first half because he held the ball too long. __________________ This body holding me reminds me of my own mortality Embrace this moment, remember We are eternal, all this pain is an illusion ~MJKeenan

09-06-2016, 09:48 AM	#709
lumberjim I can hear my ears Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 25,571	Then why play him at all? __________________ This body holding me reminds me of my own mortality Embrace this moment, remember We are eternal, all this pain is an illusion ~MJKeenan

09-06-2016, 11:25 AM	#711
lumberjim I can hear my ears Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 25,571	Instructed to stay in the pocket and take hits? A guy you're paying 7mil? Neh. You don't pull or trap in pass protection. Well, screen passes, but that's not what they were doing. He either lacked the confidence in his receivers or they are not getting open even a little. This is just one game. The offense managed what, 3 points? But then Wentz has played zero snaps with the first string, so he didn't really have a pre season. You guys went 4-0 last year too. What's your prediction for this year's record? __________________ This body holding me reminds me of my own mortality Embrace this moment, remember We are eternal, all this pain is an illusion ~MJKeenan

09-06-2016, 10:45 PM	#715
Gravdigr The Un-Tuckian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: South Central...KY that is Posts: 39,517	Tell the 69 joke. __________________ These statements have not been evaluated by the FDA, EPA, FBI, DEA, CDC, or FDIC. These statements are not intended to diagnose, cause, treat, cure, or prevent any disease. If you feel you have been harmed/offended by, or, disagree with any of the above statements or images, please feel free to fuck right off.

09-06-2016, 11:08 PM	#716
lumberjim I can hear my ears Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 25,571	:twists your arm: __________________ This body holding me reminds me of my own mortality Embrace this moment, remember We are eternal, all this pain is an illusion ~MJKeenan

09-06-2016, 07:12 AM	#706
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	Oh, you seem to believe that preseason is useful as an indicator of how real games are going to go.

09-06-2016, 08:36 AM	#708
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	Doug Pederson was Daniel's QB coach last year. He's an entirely known quantity. There's no need to evaluate him in preseason.

09-06-2016, 11:07 AM	#710
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	For all the reasons there is a preseason... to train the playbook, establish unity, and evaluate everyone on the field who does need evaluatin'. The way I see it, outcomes don't matter... but the film does... so he may be instructed to stay in the pocket and take hits, because the point of a quarter is to figure out if the guards are going to be able to do a certain kind of pull or trap or whatever it is they need to do. We don't know what the point of these plays are, which is why I don't care about preseason Chase Daniel is QB Doug Pederson in 1999, brought in because he is a known quantity, understands Pederson's system, will coach the whiz kid, and most importantly: become a backup and happily take that role. Something Sammy did not do...

09-06-2016, 09:42 PM	#714
captainhook455 Rapscallion Join Date: Aug 2016 Posts: 1,357	Don't make me tell the 69 joke. tarheel

09-07-2016, 05:40 AM	#717
fargon Person who doesn't update the user title Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: La Crosse, WI Posts: 8,924	Please tell the 69 joke. __________________ Annoy the ones that ignore you!!! I live a blessed life I Love my Country, I Fear the Government!!! Heavily medicated for the good of mankind.

09-07-2016, 09:23 AM	#718
captainhook455 Rapscallion Join Date: Aug 2016 Posts: 1,357	A man went to a house of ill repute. Told the madam he wanted something different. He had done everything. She named a few things and he said he had done those. Did you ever 69? No I don't believe I have. So he goes to a room, takes his clothes off and gets into the position with a pretty young woman. They going at it and he is happy. Couple minutes go by and phsst, she farts in his face. Whoa. God, what did she eat? The air clears and he is going at it again. Phsst. Oh no, stop right now he says, dear girl I do like what we doing and all, but I don't think I can take another 67 of them. tarheel

09-07-2016, 02:04 PM	#719
Gravdigr The Un-Tuckian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: South Central...KY that is Posts: 39,517	Sir, I thank you. __________________ These statements have not been evaluated by the FDA, EPA, FBI, DEA, CDC, or FDIC. These statements are not intended to diagnose, cause, treat, cure, or prevent any disease. If you feel you have been harmed/offended by, or, disagree with any of the above statements or images, please feel free to fuck right off.

09-07-2016, 02:24 PM	#720
fargon Person who doesn't update the user title Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: La Crosse, WI Posts: 8,924	Thank You Sir! __________________ Annoy the ones that ignore you!!! I live a blessed life I Love my Country, I Fear the Government!!! Heavily medicated for the good of mankind.

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