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Old 08-21-2012, 07:46 AM   #46
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Another great onion article:

http://www.theonion.com/articles/pre...as-ille,29258/
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Old 08-21-2012, 07:49 AM   #47
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And another!

Republicans Condemn Akin's Comments As Blemish On Party's Otherwise Spotless Women's Rights Record

http://www.theonion.com/articles/rep...sh-on-p,29259/
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Old 08-21-2012, 10:08 AM   #48
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That's the public statement. Necessary to defuse the issue among Akin's oppenents. But I suspect the party would rather have him run since he probably will still win the Senate seat.

The issue may be politically incorrect among the more educated. But his support is not from those people. I suspect Akin's strongest supporters quietly agree with him. Or really don't regard his statements as inflammatory. I suspect the party knows this. And minimizes harm by pretending to not support him.
I agree with most of what you've said tw. Public statement, check. Needed to distance themselves from Akin, check. I don't agree that they want him to run; I believe they'd rather have someone else who hasn't attracted and excited (Energized is the political buzzword) so much opposition. Of course the statement is politically incorrect, incorrect in so many ways not the least of which is factually incorrect. And sadly, you're right about his supporters who, not quietly, agree with him. They're just fine with his remark, who cares, no abortion, no exceptions, the end.

I welcome his opposition in this race, though I can't vote in that race. I think he's a good contrast to legitimate leaders, like McCaskill.
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Old 08-21-2012, 12:04 PM   #49
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Lest we forget, it's not just Akin.

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the truth is the "legitimate rape" comment made by U.S. Rep. Todd Akin -- as in pregnancy from "legitimate rape" is rare -- is not a GOP anomaly, but rather another disturbing glimpse into the viewpoint too many social conservatives have about women's health and reproductive rights. And if abortion is not among the "real issues," why is the GOP platform committee considering adding a ban, with no mention of exceptions, to this year's to-do list?

Last March, in a discussion in the Kansas House about whether women purchase separate abortion-only policies, Republican state Rep. Pete DeGraaf suggested women should plan ahead for rape the way he keeps a spare tire. A few weeks later, Indiana state Rep. Eric Turner, a Republican, said some women might fake being raped in order to get free abortions.

Former presidential hopeful Rick Santorum suggested doctors who perform an abortion on a woman who becomes pregnant from an attack should be thrown in jail and this year suggested rape victims who become pregnant from an attack should be forced to keep the baby and "make the best out of a bad situation."
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Old 08-21-2012, 12:07 PM   #50
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Yeah... The Kos headline is: Republicans in disarray thanks to Akin explaining what they all think about rape
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Old 08-21-2012, 12:17 PM   #51
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And apparently, none of the statutory rapes or incest victims in Steve King's personal experience have ever gotten pregnant.
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Old 08-21-2012, 01:13 PM   #52
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Akin should be raped ... legitimately.
After that, maybe just maybe I'll listen to what he has to say.
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Old 08-21-2012, 01:21 PM   #53
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yes, legitimately. so he wouldn't get pregnant.
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Old 08-21-2012, 01:29 PM   #54
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Y'know what? I don't want to hear a single fucking right-wing conservative open their mouths... about... women ever again [snipped]
George Galloway is not currently covering himself in glory.
Although I have more respect for his reasoning having looked into all the information available.
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Old 08-21-2012, 02:19 PM   #55
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I think he'll stay in the race. Then, there will be a court battle to remove him which will be successful. Then, the replacement GOP candidate will lose in the general election in November.
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Old 08-21-2012, 02:46 PM   #56
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So the Republicans arent really assured of the conservative women's vote yet? I dont know about that. Any woman would be insane to vote for this guy, but Im pretty sure that prolifers wont change their minds about him.
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Old 08-21-2012, 02:55 PM   #57
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I was listening to NPR this morning, and they interviewed a handful of this guy's constituents. Two of them were women who were fully supportive of him and thought he was a victim of gotcha politics.
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Old 08-21-2012, 02:59 PM   #58
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Even a blind hog finds an acorn now and then.

I mean, he is a pig and those two women are nuts.

I gotta start writing my manifesto, I suppose.
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Old 08-21-2012, 03:06 PM   #59
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I heard that story and those women too. This really is "gotcha politics". GOTCHA! But for fucking fuck's sake people, even taking away his "I used one wrong word, one time", he doesn't have a public position that reflects reality. For me, that's enough to disqualify him. As others have opined, the truth matters, for some, and for others, the truth does not matter. I have seen or heard nothing about this issue that has contradicted my original assessment that his only "misspoke" was to actually say, out loud, what he believes.
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Old 08-21-2012, 03:15 PM   #60
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If there weren't nothin' to be gotted then no one would have to have got him, get it?

Poor baby boohooo, gettin' all picked on and stuff. His mama should've aborted.
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