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Old 04-19-2017, 06:29 PM   #16
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A minor battle in the war on information was won today. Bill O'Reilly was fired.
He cannot even go in and go postal on the boss? Boss got fired for doing the same thing. Worse, even his bosses long knew about it and the many $million payoffs.
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Old 04-20-2017, 06:10 AM   #17
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He'll be in government before you can say, "Impeach the motherfucker."
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Old 04-21-2017, 09:12 AM   #18
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sumbody gotta say it...

Bill O's downfall has way more to do with his popularity and the popularity of FOX than with his supposed harassing behavior.

If FOX were small potatoes, if Bill O just a blip (or if he were a big commie on MSNBC) not a soul would give two shits if he hit on the ladies.
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Old 04-21-2017, 09:19 AM   #19
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Bill O's downfall has way more to do with his popularity and the popularity of FOX than with his supposed harassing behavior.
Exactly. They used the resulting large sums of money to cover up and protect criminal behavior - for decades. And then promoted themselves as honest and ethical.

A trend more often found in extremists (who also use hate as a promotion tool). And less often among moderates.
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Old 04-21-2017, 09:24 AM   #20
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Wow, didn't take you long to pipe in and ride coat tails.

For the record, folks: my trolling is in no way associated with TW's trolling.

We are independent (of each other) trolls.
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Old 04-21-2017, 09:25 AM   #21
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He was canned to get the approval of a 15 Billion dollar merger in Europe.
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Old 04-21-2017, 09:26 AM   #22
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What you talkin' about, Willis?
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Old 04-21-2017, 04:43 PM   #23
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This.
https://www.theguardian.com/media/20...f-the-sky-deal
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Old 04-21-2017, 05:06 PM   #24
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He was canned to get the approval of a 15 Billion dollar merger in Europe.
Leaks from the Murdoch family say he was just fine with his employees actions (and resulting $millions of hush money). Murdoch had decided to let it all blow over. But his sons apparently view sexual assault as criminal activity that must stop. Apparently Rubert Murdoch's sons kept demanding a pragmatic approach. And are wielding more power. Fox executives and stars who routinely conducted sexual harassment and were exposed had to go.

Its no accident that criminal activity was most often in Murdoch businesses. As sons take more power, interesting will be how a corrupt culture changes. Does it start acting in a more ethical manner - as Bill Krystal of the Weekly Standard has openly discussed (or complained).
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Old 04-23-2017, 09:19 AM   #25
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It does whatever it takes to increase profits even if that means becoming more ethical; because, the purpose of a business is to make money.
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Old 04-23-2017, 02:46 PM   #26
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It does whatever it takes to increase profits even if that means becoming more ethical; because, the purpose of a business is to make money.
Never was. That is the purpose of the mafia and the Central Committee of the Communist party. Enrich top management. Even George Orwell's "Animal Farm" made that obvious.

In ethical organizations, its purpose was always the product. Not the sexual gratification at the expense of others by top management and other elites.
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Old 04-23-2017, 03:14 PM   #27
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The purpose of business has always been to barter for goods and services; or, to make money as a medium of exchange. The purpose of bartering or making money by doing business was never the product; but, the acquisition of products and services; or, medium of exchange.

This just has to be repeated until you can grasp reality.
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Old 04-23-2017, 05:06 PM   #28
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This just has to be repeated until you can grasp reality.
GM's and Chrysler's purpose was profits. So the government had to bail them out. William Clay Ford said the purpose of a company is its products - a radical change from Nasser who only wanted profits. So Ford did not request or need government bailout. Ford's reward - not its purpose - record profits.

Purpose is either a product or profit. It cannot be both. Companies that only want profits (Sears, Radio Shack, etc) end up only enriching the central committee of the communist party- top management. While blaming everyone but themselves.

This has been long understood. American steel companies who did not care about the product - therefore do not even have electric arc furnaces - will now run to The Donald for protection. Why? Because foreign steel companies addressed their product. Ie use electric arc furnaces. Therefore also have profits, no adversarial employees, no financing problems, a growing market share, etc.

American steel companies cost controlled products to create profits. Must again run to the government for protection.

This will be denied by extremists who will love it when The Donald protects anti-innovation (anti-American) steel companies. Habitual extremist is a sounding board to demonstrate that ignorance and denial lives on. Extremists cannot learn. Extremist can only recite what their handlers (talking heads) tell them to believe.

Only moderates learn and think for themselves.
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Old 04-23-2017, 05:19 PM   #29
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I know moderates. Moderates are friends of mine. You, dingbat, are no moderate. You build castles in the air and then live in them. That's not moderate: that's developmentally impaired. Product can be a medium of profit. It's called assets. The financially ignorant will deny that purpose of business is profit. They are the tools of losers like Hillary.
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Old 04-24-2017, 09:01 AM   #30
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as i recall, tw and me had this discussion way back

This is how it works in the real world...

The owner/operator wants to make money (profit).

He does so cuz he wants to eat, shelter himself, buy stuff, etc.

He makes money by offering a product or service.

If wise, he offers the best product or service he can, at the best price he can, cuz, in doing so, he increases the probability of repeat and increased sales.

If unwise, he offers shit (usually flashy, designed to draw the eye and nuthin' more), or (rarely) he just gives his product or sevice away which is nice for the consumer but does nuthin' to feed or shelter the owner/operator (self-care, again, bein' the reason the owner went into business)

Business, then, is not about 'making the world better' but is, always has been, and always will be, about makin' a buck.
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