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Old 08-14-2019, 05:34 PM   #121
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The Democratic Party is dead to me. A nest of socialist adders, with a policy of "divide and rule" in what has too-milquetoastily been called "patchwork pandering."

What is identity politics *but* divide and rule? What's the ultimate end, the purest form, of identity politics? Prison race gangs.

Somebody who calls Trump a "communist" or somehow thinks he's a "communist disciple," whatever that is, is somebody who not only does not connect with reality but is actively engaged in kicking reality out the back door because reality doesn't conform to his ideas -- the mark, if memory serves, of a wacko extremist and a radical. TW, you're really really really bad at doing human. And you must do human to grasp politics sensibly at all.
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Old 08-14-2019, 07:24 PM   #122
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Somebody who calls Trump a "communist" or somehow thinks he's a "communist disciple," whatever that is, is somebody who not only does not connect with reality ...
Strange that Trump praises Putin, Xi, Kim, and so many other dictators. Why disparaging leaders of virtually every closest American ally. He praises communists. And so you love him.

You demonstrate why America has become so divisive - lies. Rather than discuss facts, you praise Trump who then praises communists. Then ignore obvious contradictions in your own reasoning.

Which American ally did he disparage last? Germany's? Italy's? S Korea's. Who can keep up?

In his first 500 days, he posted 5,500 or 6,500 lies. Depending on which of so many (a majority of) international news services did the counting. Only an extremist would deny that Trump routinely lies.

He even denied that he ordered Comey to be loyal. No problem. Lies are acceptable and approved of by extremists - who may even lie about their love of communists.

Communism - enrich the Central Committee of the Communist Party. Curious. Trump has been doing that his entire adult life. He never ran a single successful company. So where did he get his money? Will you also lie about that? An extremist would.

It is about time for him to trade in his wife for a new one. It explains his recent hatred of immigrants. If he deports her, then alimony need not be paid.

Makes me wonder who really is a greater communist sympathizer. You or Trump. Since communist sympathizers routinely insult and lie. Routinely post disparaging comments rather than address facts.
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Old 08-14-2019, 10:48 PM   #123
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Tw, tw... conspiracy theorizing is the last refuge of the incompetent... and the romantic manqué. Being at least not the latter, I am not impressed with your intellectual significance. Nor your emotional maturity, come to that. You do not have a history of being an anticommunist -- your pro-communist leanings in re Vietnam were the first thing I ever chewed your ass and kicked your bubblegum about on this forum.
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Old 08-15-2019, 12:02 AM   #124
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Trump is no communist, neither are Putin, xi or Fatty III. Dictators all.
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Old 08-15-2019, 06:12 AM   #125
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What is identity politics *but* divide and rule? What's the ultimate end, the purest form, of identity politics? Prison race gangs.
The part you may miss here is that the identity politics on the left birthed Trump who is also an identity politician.
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Old 08-15-2019, 01:09 PM   #126
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Trump is no communist, neither are Putin, xi or Fatty III. Dictators all.
What is a communist? Dictatorship. Xi and Fatty III are both openly titled as heads of their communist party. Putin is communist in all but name. Trump loves those communists. He constantly praises them. He clearly demonstrates appreciation for dictators. And the tools that so easily bring communist dictators to power (ie hate groups KKK, anti-Semites, White Supremacists, Misogynists, Nazi, Islamophobist, etc).

You can argue semantics all day. But Trump has greater appreciation for communism - also called a dictatorship.

Given the opportunity, he would "Make America Great Again" by making it into a communist dictatorship. Then he need not worry about trivial problems such as grand juries, prosecution for lying, impeachment, and obstruction of justice indictments.
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Old 08-15-2019, 01:27 PM   #127
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"Given the opportunity, he would "Make America Great Again" by making it into a communist dictatorship."

Your evidence? Can you point to any piece of Trump-sponsored or Trump-considered legislation that has moved, or will move, America in the direction of state socialism or state communism?

Just one.

I can. Red flag laws. but I think he's just messin' with the dems on that one.

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Old 08-15-2019, 01:30 PM   #128
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"the identity politics on the left birthed Trump who is also an identity politician"

Absolutely.

The manure of the left (and a good chunk of the right) was countered with Trump's hiring. That he bangs the opposing drum as loudly as the left (and some of the right) is part of the deal.

What, you thought he was gonna go 'open borders' once he took the Big Chair?
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Old 08-15-2019, 01:31 PM   #129
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Your evidence? Can you point to any piece of Trump-sponsored or Trump-considered legislation that has moved, or will move, America in the direction of state socialism or state communism?

Just one.

I can. Red flag laws. but I think he's just messin' with the dems on that one.
He did sign the bump stock ban...
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Old 08-15-2019, 01:58 PM   #130
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"He did sign the bump stock ban..."

HA!

Actually, as an accessory (not a firearm) I don't have a problem with that ban. It was feel-good move that amounted to nuthin'.
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Old 08-15-2019, 10:12 PM   #131
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But doesn't that amount to restricting your liberty? Nevermind the Second Amendment, it's a thing you (conceivably) want to buy with your own money and you can't.
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Old 08-15-2019, 11:37 PM   #132
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It was feel-good move that amounted to nuthin'.
If a Democrat had signed that, the wailing in the wilderness about it being the first step to total confiscation, would be deafening.
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Old 08-16-2019, 09:05 AM   #133
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"But doesn't that amount to restricting your liberty?"

Not really. Right now, in Church Point, LA, I know of at least five prople who'd sell me a bump stock. Prohibitions and bans (here in America, anyway) tend to create black and gray markets.

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"Nevermind the Second Amendment"

Yeah, as I've said before: I don't give a flip about the second.

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"it's a thing you (conceivably) want to buy with your own money and you can't."

As I say: I know folks.
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Old 08-16-2019, 09:07 AM   #134
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"If a Democrat had signed that, the wailing in the wilderness about it being the first step to total confiscation, would be deafening."

Probablly (but not from me).
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Old 08-16-2019, 09:07 AM   #135
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But if black markets solve everything, why do you need someone to "wreck shit" in the first place? Seems like a wasted effort, if such shit doesn't affect you in any way.
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