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Old 05-28-2018, 12:20 PM   #346
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That's the way rights work. If it doesn't work that way, it's not a right, it's a privilege. If people want this right to be downgraded to a privilege, they can change the Constitution.
I'm actually sympathetic to the idea that amending the Constitution is the "Constitutional" way to go, however, that could be a more ham handed outcome where we lose a right than incremental changes with a dance between Congress and the Judiciary. We already have precedent for limitations.

Henry, what do you consider private? Is a conviction for a violent crime private? Is a history of severe mental illness private? Where do you draw the "drawers" line?
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Old 05-28-2018, 12:51 PM   #347
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I'm actually sympathetic to the idea that amending the Constitution is the "Constitutional" way to go, however, that could be a more ham handed outcome where we lose a right than incremental changes with a dance between Congress and the Judiciary. We already have precedent for limitations.
Mexico already does that dance via its Constitution and the right wasn't lost.
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Old 05-28-2018, 12:56 PM   #348
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"Henry, what do you consider private?"

Anything and everything that isn't takin' money out of another's pocket, food off their table, or the shingles from the roof over their heads. In other words: If I'm not tangibly mucking around in their business, then 'my' business is none of 'their' business.

And: no, the possibility I 'might' muck around in their business tomorrow is not sufficient to justify them muckin' around in mine today.

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"Is a conviction for a violent crime private?"

No, that is and should be a function of the public record (the trial is paid for with taxes and therefore is not strictly a private matter).

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"Is a history of severe mental illness private?"

Yep, it's private till the afflicted stop mindin' their own business and keepin' their hands to themselves. And even then, that history should remain a private matter if the actions that got the afflicted in hot water are of the sort not demonstrably linked to their illness. Example: a glove box full of unpaid traffic tickets is not sufficient to violate patient/doctor privilege.

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"Where do you draw the "drawers" line?"

Along the edges of my life (which, when not tangibly infringing on yours, is none of your business).
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Old 06-23-2018, 08:50 AM   #349
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FBI Study

https://www.fbi.gov/file-repository/...-2013.pdf/view

key findings page 7
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Old 06-23-2018, 12:32 PM   #350
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While the FBI remains reactive, Florida school districts are going proactive:

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Old 06-23-2018, 04:17 PM   #351
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PA just passed a bipartisan bill.
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Old 06-23-2018, 04:21 PM   #352
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The laxatives must've worked.
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Old 06-23-2018, 04:23 PM   #353
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I think they must have a bipartisan budget also flowed out.
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Old 06-23-2018, 04:25 PM   #354
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