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Old 08-15-2015, 07:56 PM   #211
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Because the politicians couldn't take the heat from something like this happening to military servicewomen:

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Family says daughter raped repeatedly while held by IS

WASHINGTON (AP) American hostage Kayla Mueller was repeatedly forced to have sex with Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi, the leader of the Islamic State group, U.S. intelligence officials told her family in June. ...
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Old 08-15-2015, 10:57 PM   #212
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As for why this hasn't changed, ask Obama. He could change it with the stroke of a pen. It's not in the Constitution, it's not a law, it's just a matter of public policy.
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The DOD has required the services to integrate women into the remaining closed positions by the beginning of next year, but the department has no plans to monitor progress after that date, the GAO said.
Except for the Navy saying OK, except for three classes of small ships that would be too expensive to retrofit and are close to the end of their service life, none of the branches have objected to the deadline. There's no need for Obama to intercede.
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Old 08-15-2015, 11:12 PM   #213
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Should've been done in his first year in office; but, he procrastinated until he could pass any problems with implementation on to his successor.
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Old 08-15-2015, 11:25 PM   #214
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Procrastinated? You're assuming it was even on the list of pressing issues when he took office. I doubt it was even on the list. You're right that it's a politically hot button issue with some people, primarily conservatives. So even if it did come up in the Oval Office, it would be passed to the DOD for action.
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Old 08-16-2015, 12:06 AM   #215
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The brass at DOD don't make changes to public policy without considering the political ramifications to their boss and getting his approval.

You seem to be saying that gender equality wasn't a priority for Obama when he took office and that primarily conservative politicians would be concerned about fallout, like that described in post 211, resulting from changes.

I can accept those as rationales for Obama's procrastination.
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Old 08-16-2015, 01:46 AM   #216
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I'm saying gender equality in the military probably wasn't on his list of priority issues when he took office in 2008. It certainly wasn't on most peoples at the time, with all the shit going on. I can picture a shitstorm of wailing and gnashing of teeth from the conservatives and K street, how the Kenyan Devil is sending mothers/sisters/daughters to be raped and slaughtered by the a-rabs.
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Old 08-16-2015, 02:21 AM   #217
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Anyway, better late than never. If after the policy change any female combatants are taken hostage, we should have a Delta-cup Force to send in and rescue them.
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Old 08-16-2015, 11:09 AM   #218
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As for why this hasn't changed, ask Obama. He could change it with the stroke of a pen. It's not in the Constitution, it's not a law, it's just a matter of public policy.
... and not wanting to hurt the delicate feelings of the US Marine Corp
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Old 08-16-2015, 11:34 AM   #219
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Delta-cup force?
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Old 08-16-2015, 11:47 AM   #220
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Females who make it through Delta Force training are gonna have pecs!


Just kidding, developing their pectoral muscles isn't going to change their cup size.
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Old 08-16-2015, 02:08 PM   #221
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Because they can operate drones from Arizona?
Actually that's a really good point.

I guess both genders deserve an equal chance at been replaced by robots...
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Old 08-18-2015, 03:08 AM   #222
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Females who make it through Delta Force training are gonna have pecs!
Don't look now, but....

History in the making: 2 women will graduate from Army Ranger course
CNN -Holly Yan and Barbara Starr - 8/18/15

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(CNN)Two women are about to make history by becoming the first female soldiers to graduate from the Army's exhausting Ranger School.

They're among the 96 students who will graduate from the intensive training program Friday in Fort Benning, Georgia.

This was the first year the Army opened the course to women on a trial basis.

"This course has proven that every Soldier, regardless of gender, can achieve his
or her full potential," Secretary of the Army John M. McHugh said in a statement.

But it's not clear what awaits the female graduates.
The Pentagon isn't expected to make final decisions about exactly
what combat roles women will be allowed to fulfill until later this year.
This is Army, but it's a matter of time til the Marines will have to face up too.
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Old 08-18-2015, 05:04 AM   #223
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Don't look now, but....

History in the making: 2 women will graduate from Army Ranger course
CNN -Holly Yan and Barbara Starr - 8/18/15



This is Army, but it's a matter of time til the Marines will have to face up too.
You also make a good point:
If there is a first organization to get rid of gender barriers, and others to follow.. There is going to be a last.

Will it be the navy? Will it be the marines? The national guard? Who will we laugh at as the new era's catholic school boys? Who will we make gay jokes about for years passed the point where gay jokes are still a thing? Who will be the new bottom of the progressive barrel for as long as we live in gravity filled environments and can still make sense of top and bottom metaphors? Stand up future victims of mockery, show yourself.... Or you know, don't stand up, don't do anything, it's kind of the defining feature of the position.
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Old 08-18-2015, 05:42 PM   #224
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Even if those two female Ranger School graduates can't be assigned to the Ranger Regiment right away, they should allow them to start using men's restrooms IMMEDIATELY!
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Old 08-18-2015, 05:45 PM   #225
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You're using and extra large spoon paddle.
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