ever get caught in a bad lie? - Page 2

tw · 11-14-2006, 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by breakingnews

Well, when my dad is breaking my balls, we'll see who gets the last laugh.

Best defense is a good offense. If B-school is not for you, then something else better be. Can they really argue is you are studying to be a concert pianist or a pilot? Having a different objective would (might) silence the criticism.

Obviously above is not a short term solution to getting caught lying.

morethanpretty · 11-14-2006, 10:48 PM

yeah! a fellow liar! if I tell my parents the truth I'm being disrespectful, if I don't then I'm not trustworthy, if I don't tell them anything I'm disrespectful, untrustworthy, hate them, and I am doing drugs.
When you know you're about to get caught its best if you come clean before hand w/ a really good explanation. But if you get caught have an explanation and sob story ready.

wolf · 11-15-2006, 12:44 AM

Have you seen the Ang Lee film The Wedding Banquet? Compared to the guy in the movie, you have it pretty easy. Unless you've also not told your folks that you are gay and living with a white male physical therapist.

What's really your worst case scenario if you tell your folks you don't want to go to school for the MBA? Is there something else that you could do that you would enjoy while appearing to satisfy their need to micromanage you?

breakingnews · 11-15-2006, 01:35 AM

Yeah, the situation is nowhere near what they go through in The Wedding Banquet. Actually, I wish it were - maybe I could script it and make a major motion picture.

I've already told my parents numerous times that I don't want to get an MBA, and that if I did, I'd want to go to a more specialized program. But nothing I say will change their minds. Like I said, this is a non-issue.

That doesn't mean they're completely heartless. I can do whatever I want to do, and as long as I do it well, my parents will be happy. It's just that there are certain things that would make them exceptionally happy, unfortunately.

THe problem here is that I lied to get out of this situation, and it's gonna come back and bite me in the ass. That's all.

Actually, I'm halfway out of the hole - I told my mom that they already posted interview candidates and that I was not among them. She was cool about it ... but when her and my father get a chance to discuss things, their opinions often change very, very quickly.

wolf · 11-16-2006, 12:26 AM

Sometimes 7,800ish miles away doesn't seem so far, does it? (assuming your 'rents are in the States)

breakingnews · 11-16-2006, 12:50 AM

They mostly live here now ... but all the way in the south part of the island, about 300-some miles away.

They have a lot of spies in taipei though.

footfootfoot · 11-16-2006, 07:07 PM

Presumably the old "You can't trust those inscrutable Asians" defense won't work in this case, so trying to tell your folks that the college LOST the rest of your materials is out of the question.

But maybe not! Deny deny deny. Go proactive, put the school on the defensive. "Those hacks! that's EXACTLY the reason I don't want to go to school at some second rate school that LOSES half my admissions material. THIS is an OUTRAGE!

splutter a lot, stamp and storm, seem really hurt annoyed betrayed rejected, take it up to 11 and get your folks into the position of having to chill you out and not the other way around.

You can do it, you old thespian you.

skysidhe · 11-17-2006, 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Flint

I've seen this kind of thing before, in movies. When your parents realize the lengths you've gone to to avoid doing something you didn't want to do, they'll suddenly understand, in a tearful epiphany, that they've been too controlling, and they'll support you in your endevor to become a world-class motorcycle daredevil. Oh, and you'll get the girl, too. That other guy wasn't right for her, didn't treat her good. She sees that now. Oh look! Your puppy just came home! He hops up and licks you on the face, everybody laughs! :::roll credits:::

lol @ Flint

Those were funny. Hey who stole yer id.

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anyway,,,to answer the question. No...... but I can imagine the scenarios. I suggest not being too honest. I am not saying be dishonest but if you know you are going to get the gillotine. I don't see any reason to add anymore pain by telling your family how you didn't really fill out the application. I would just decide to change and not be passive aggressive next time which it sounds like you have.
Good Luck

11-17-2006, 02:38 PM

I like the taking the offensive part. How dare that school lose half your paperwork? You spent hours and hours sending off for these papers, taking that test, getting this reference, and the idiots lose them! What can of education can I get at such a place? Why don't I apply at "enter school of your choice" university. Now THEY have a good reputation!

PS It helps to visualize yourself doing all those things. Sure, you sent for those transcripts - you remember the very day. You distinctly remember dropping that one envelope in the mail. Hypnotize yourself into believing and it shall become true!

11-17-2006, 03:08 PM

Gotta' live your life man!
Time to make it YOURS, take ownership. One day you will die... they will not be doing that for you... don't let them do the rest for you either, take the good so when the bad comes you will have reaped the benefits as well.
Stop owning all that guilt, it was given to you, not grown by you.

Iggy · 11-17-2006, 07:20 PM

This seems to be a messy situation period. My suggestion is to just be honest. I don't know your parents, but I tend to be a lot more understanding and forgiving if someone admits to a little bad judgement (lying rather then standing your ground) than if I find out by other means. You never know what they can or cannot prove with regards to your application... maybe it was sealed until the person looking through it opened it. Maybe the person who opened it remembers that application and will tell your parents you are lying.

Oh, and to answer your question, not really. When I was younger I was basically caught in the lie that I wasn't having sex (since I was). But that was all I did that was really bad in my parents eyes, and I don't know if anyone tells their parents the truth about their sex life. And I didn't actually say I wasn't having sex, it was a lie through omission, which isn't as bad as a bald faced lie IMHO.

Edit: And I don't think you should feel guilty for wanting your own life. I think that is admirable. You parents will most likly come around if you are honest and explain that you have your own plans. And while you appreciate their concern, you don't need their plan for your life.

limey · 11-18-2006, 02:34 PM

I'm with the "front up and be honest" brigade. It's gonna have to happen sometime, after all. You're the one that's living your life, not them ... good luck.

footfootfoot · 11-18-2006, 09:48 PM

My motto is "It's always easier to obtain forgiveness than permission"

but I maybe made that clear.

LabRat · 01-09-2007, 01:26 PM

OK, so i am dying to know what happened.

Update please BN, if you are still alive

Shawnee123 · 01-09-2007, 01:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by footfootfoot

Presumably the old "You can't trust those inscrutable Asians" defense won't work in this case, so trying to tell your folks that the college LOST the rest of your materials is out of the question.

But maybe not! Deny deny deny. Go proactive, put the school on the defensive. "Those hacks! that's EXACTLY the reason I don't want to go to school at some second rate school that LOSES half my admissions material. THIS is an OUTRAGE!

splutter a lot, stamp and storm, seem really hurt annoyed betrayed rejected, take it up to 11 and get your folks into the position of having to chill you out and not the other way around.

You can do it, you old thespian you.

THIS makes me laugh uproariously. You have no idea how many students we have who fail to go through the proper steps and tell their parents we lost everything or screwed them up somehow. Usually, the parents end up making an appt (with kid in tow) to discuss our errors and what we're going to do about it. It usually ends up being a no show, because the kid would get into more trouble once the parents find the truth and are embarrassed. The kid figures out a way to get out of it.

Please don't blame the administrators. We get enough shit as it is!

11-14-2006, 10:48 PM	#17
morethanpretty Thats "Miss Zipper Neck" to you. Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: little town (but not the littlest) in texas Posts: 2,957	yeah! a fellow liar! if I tell my parents the truth I'm being disrespectful, if I don't then I'm not trustworthy, if I don't tell them anything I'm disrespectful, untrustworthy, hate them, and I am doing drugs. When you know you're about to get caught its best if you come clean before hand w/ a really good explanation. But if you get caught have an explanation and sob story ready. __________________ Addicts may suck dick for coke, but love came up with the idea to put a dick in there to begin with. -Jack O'Brien

11-15-2006, 12:44 AM	#18
wolf lobber of scimitars Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Phila Burbs Posts: 20,774	Have you seen the Ang Lee film The Wedding Banquet? Compared to the guy in the movie, you have it pretty easy. Unless you've also not told your folks that you are gay and living with a white male physical therapist. What's really your worst case scenario if you tell your folks you don't want to go to school for the MBA? Is there something else that you could do that you would enjoy while appearing to satisfy their need to micromanage you? __________________ wolf eht htiw og "Conspiracies are the norm, not the exception." --G. Edward Griffin The Creature from Jekyll Island High Priestess of the Church of the Whale Penis

11-15-2006, 01:35 AM	#19
breakingnews Q_Q Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: somewhere in between Posts: 995	Yeah, the situation is nowhere near what they go through in The Wedding Banquet. Actually, I wish it were - maybe I could script it and make a major motion picture. I've already told my parents numerous times that I don't want to get an MBA, and that if I did, I'd want to go to a more specialized program. But nothing I say will change their minds. Like I said, this is a non-issue. That doesn't mean they're completely heartless. I can do whatever I want to do, and as long as I do it well, my parents will be happy. It's just that there are certain things that would make them exceptionally happy, unfortunately. THe problem here is that I lied to get out of this situation, and it's gonna come back and bite me in the ass. That's all. Actually, I'm halfway out of the hole - I told my mom that they already posted interview candidates and that I was not among them. She was cool about it ... but when her and my father get a chance to discuss things, their opinions often change very, very quickly. __________________ Gone crazy, be back never.

11-16-2006, 12:26 AM	#20
wolf lobber of scimitars Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Phila Burbs Posts: 20,774	Sometimes 7,800ish miles away doesn't seem so far, does it? (assuming your 'rents are in the States) __________________ wolf eht htiw og "Conspiracies are the norm, not the exception." --G. Edward Griffin The Creature from Jekyll Island High Priestess of the Church of the Whale Penis

11-16-2006, 12:50 AM	#21
breakingnews Q_Q Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: somewhere in between Posts: 995	They mostly live here now ... but all the way in the south part of the island, about 300-some miles away. They have a lot of spies in taipei though. __________________ Gone crazy, be back never.

11-16-2006, 07:07 PM	#22
footfootfoot To shreds, you say? Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: in the house and on the street-how many, many feet we meet! Posts: 18,449	Presumably the old "You can't trust those inscrutable Asians" defense won't work in this case, so trying to tell your folks that the college LOST the rest of your materials is out of the question. But maybe not! Deny deny deny. Go proactive, put the school on the defensive. "Those hacks! that's EXACTLY the reason I don't want to go to school at some second rate school that LOSES half my admissions material. THIS is an OUTRAGE! splutter a lot, stamp and storm, seem really hurt annoyed betrayed rejected, take it up to 11 and get your folks into the position of having to chill you out and not the other way around. You can do it, you old thespian you. __________________ The internet is a hateful stew of vomit you can never take completely seriously. - Her Fobs

11-17-2006, 02:38 PM	#24
marichiko Guest Posts: n/a	I like the taking the offensive part. How dare that school lose half your paperwork? You spent hours and hours sending off for these papers, taking that test, getting this reference, and the idiots lose them! What can of education can I get at such a place? Why don't I apply at "enter school of your choice" university. Now THEY have a good reputation! PS It helps to visualize yourself doing all those things. Sure, you sent for those transcripts - you remember the very day. You distinctly remember dropping that one envelope in the mail. Hypnotize yourself into believing and it shall become true!

11-17-2006, 03:08 PM	#25
rkzenrage Guest Posts: n/a	Gotta' live your life man! Time to make it YOURS, take ownership. One day you will die... they will not be doing that for you... don't let them do the rest for you either, take the good so when the bad comes you will have reaped the benefits as well. Stop owning all that guilt, it was given to you, not grown by you.

11-17-2006, 07:20 PM	#26
Iggy Back and ready to tart up the place Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Kansas Posts: 850	This seems to be a messy situation period. My suggestion is to just be honest. I don't know your parents, but I tend to be a lot more understanding and forgiving if someone admits to a little bad judgement (lying rather then standing your ground) than if I find out by other means. You never know what they can or cannot prove with regards to your application... maybe it was sealed until the person looking through it opened it. Maybe the person who opened it remembers that application and will tell your parents you are lying. Oh, and to answer your question, not really. When I was younger I was basically caught in the lie that I wasn't having sex (since I was). But that was all I did that was really bad in my parents eyes, and I don't know if anyone tells their parents the truth about their sex life. And I didn't actually say I wasn't having sex, it was a lie through omission, which isn't as bad as a bald faced lie IMHO. Edit: And I don't think you should feel guilty for wanting your own life. I think that is admirable. You parents will most likly come around if you are honest and explain that you have your own plans. And while you appreciate their concern, you don't need their plan for your life. __________________ Chock-full of naughty goodness.

11-18-2006, 02:34 PM	#27
limey Encroaching on your decrees Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: An island within the south-west coast of Scotland Posts: 7,016	I'm with the "front up and be honest" brigade. It's gonna have to happen sometime, after all. You're the one that's living your life, not them ... good luck. __________________ Living it up on the edge ... of civilisation, within the southwest coast of

11-18-2006, 09:48 PM	#28
footfootfoot To shreds, you say? Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: in the house and on the street-how many, many feet we meet! Posts: 18,449	My motto is "It's always easier to obtain forgiveness than permission" but I maybe made that clear. __________________ The internet is a hateful stew of vomit you can never take completely seriously. - Her Fobs

01-09-2007, 01:26 PM	#29
LabRat twatfaced two legged bumhole Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 3,143	OK, so i am dying to know what happened. Update please BN, if you are still alive __________________ Strength does not come from how much weight you can lift, or how many miles you can run. It comes from knowing that you set a goal, and rose to the challenge. Strength comes from within.

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