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orthodoc · 06-22-2014, 09:04 AM

LJ, I owe you an apology for going off on you like that. You and Ali have talked out your issue and it's no one else's business. I'm sorry. That extra glass of wine last night was not a good thing.

xoxoxoBruce · 06-22-2014, 02:47 PM

But Ortho, what's the Cellar good for if you can't get distracted from your own problems by kibitzing on someone else's.

footfootfoot · 06-23-2014, 07:23 AM

Again, I raise the call for a Posting While Drunk icon.

orthodoc · 06-23-2014, 09:42 PM

We seriously need a PWD icon.

infinite monkey · 07-30-2014, 10:58 AM

I don't know where else to put this. My neighbor lady just came to tell me another neighbor passed away this morning. These are the folks I would hang out with around the fire. This guy was a Vietnam veteran, and a music aficionado. We once talked for hours about different musicians. He really liked me...told me I was the first woman he's flirted with in years (he would say funny things to me, but all in good humor.) I liked him a lot...not in a romantic way. I considered him a friend. One of the few people I really knew around here.

Rest in Peace, Stan. You were loved.

Goddammit I can't lose many more people. I've done little but go to funerals in the last couple years. Shit. His roommate is going to have a very hard time. Shit shit shit.

elSicomoro · 07-30-2014, 10:59 AM

I'm sorry. :-(

glatt · 07-30-2014, 11:05 AM

I'm sorry IM. I was happy for you that time you posted about sitting around the fire. Sounded like good times. I'm sorry you're losing such a cool guy.

infinite monkey · 07-30-2014, 12:53 PM

Thanks.

Was just sitting with the neighbors, who were basically his family. Trying to figure out what sort of arrangements, etc. We don't know any of his next of kin.

I just went to the funeral of another friend last week, who was a Vietnam veteran. I don't think there's anything more beautiful than the 21 gun salute. We don't know if the VA will help with a service or what.

Do any of our cellar servicemen or women know about this sort of thing?

Big Sarge · 07-30-2014, 12:59 PM

contact your nearest vfw or american legion. they do a great job in our area

elSicomoro · 07-30-2014, 02:18 PM

If he is being buried at a Veterans Cemetery, that's part of the package...at least it was back home when my dad died four years ago.

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Big Sarge · 07-30-2014, 03:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by infinite monkey

I don't think there's anything more beautiful than the 21 gun salute.

Only the president receives a 21 gun salute. Soldiers get 3 volleys of rifle fire

monster · 07-30-2014, 04:26 PM

Doesn't look like VA helps much

http://www.benefits.va.gov/compensat...ial-burial.asp

what about a GoFundMe account or whatever it is?

Are the polics looking for next of kin?

infinite monkey · 07-30-2014, 05:46 PM

Oh, sorry Sarge. I misspoke. I thought the 3 fires of 7 rifles was what a 21 gun salute was. I hope I didn't offend anyone.

Yeah, they're looking for next of kin. I'm about ready to head back down there to see if anyone has found anything out. I'll mention contacting the VFW or Legion, Sarge.

Thanks for the support, folks.

Big Sarge · 07-30-2014, 06:07 PM

the 3 volley fires from anywhere from 3 to 7 soldiers is very significant. it is based on the 3 volley fire to end a truce to collect the dead and wounded. so, the funeral volley symbolizes the veteran is safe and in the care of his comrades

sorry for sounding like a smart ass.

infinite monkey · 07-30-2014, 09:47 PM

No, Sarge, I appreciate the clarification.

So there was some estranged family who showed up. They wanted 'things.' LIke he had a lot of 'things.' They don't plan on any funeral of any kind, saying they can't afford it...all the while this estranged sister asking about a life insurance policy he had some time ago (and he probably cashed in.) We plan to have our own memorial amongst us. WTF is wrong with people?

I thought about the 'go fund me' thing, monster. I don't know that Stan would have wanted that. WE would like to see a service, but the funeral is for the people left behind. It breaks my heart to think that there won't be that respect shown for a paratrooper in the Vietnam war. Yet, Stan being such a private person, maybe he would have appreciated OUR efforts even more.

My dear neighbor lady is elderly, and she took care of Stan and Stan's roommate and another neighbor guy, and they took care of her. She's also become a surrogate mom to me. They're all really good folks. She's hurting, more so about the lack of compassion from his so-called family, I can tell, but you don't make it to 78 years old without knowing pain. I hope I can be stronger too in the years ahead of me.

These are the reasons we cherish family, when so many don't know what it feels like. I don't know the backstories, don't care to because it's not my business. I know how people treat me, and others around them.

I'm gonna miss that silly funny guy. And we, as some weird sort of community, are going to celebrate that life.

Thanks for the venue to talk about this.

06-22-2014, 09:04 AM	#9916
orthodoc Not Suspicious, Merely Canadian Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 3,774	LJ, I owe you an apology for going off on you like that. You and Ali have talked out your issue and it's no one else's business. I'm sorry. That extra glass of wine last night was not a good thing. __________________ The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the way its animals are treated. - Ghandi

06-22-2014, 02:47 PM	#9917
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	But Ortho, what's the Cellar good for if you can't get distracted from your own problems by kibitzing on someone else's. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

06-23-2014, 07:23 AM	#9918
footfootfoot To shreds, you say? Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: in the house and on the street-how many, many feet we meet! Posts: 18,449	Again, I raise the call for a Posting While Drunk icon. __________________ The internet is a hateful stew of vomit you can never take completely seriously. - Her Fobs

06-23-2014, 09:42 PM	#9919
orthodoc Not Suspicious, Merely Canadian Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 3,774	We seriously need a PWD icon. __________________ The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the way its animals are treated. - Ghandi

07-30-2014, 12:59 PM	#9924
Big Sarge Werepandas - lurking in your shadows Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: In the Deep South Posts: 3,408	contact your nearest vfw or american legion. they do a great job in our area __________________ Give a man a match, & he'll be warm for 20 seconds. But toss that man a white phosphorus grenade and he'll be warm for the rest of his life.

07-30-2014, 10:58 AM	#9920
infinite monkey Person who doesn't update the user title Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 13,002	I don't know where else to put this. My neighbor lady just came to tell me another neighbor passed away this morning. These are the folks I would hang out with around the fire. This guy was a Vietnam veteran, and a music aficionado. We once talked for hours about different musicians. He really liked me...told me I was the first woman he's flirted with in years (he would say funny things to me, but all in good humor.) I liked him a lot...not in a romantic way. I considered him a friend. One of the few people I really knew around here. Rest in Peace, Stan. You were loved. Goddammit I can't lose many more people. I've done little but go to funerals in the last couple years. Shit. His roommate is going to have a very hard time. Shit shit shit.

07-30-2014, 10:59 AM	#9921
elSicomoro Person who doesn't update the user title Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 12,486	I'm sorry. :-(

07-30-2014, 11:05 AM	#9922
glatt ™ Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 27,717	I'm sorry IM. I was happy for you that time you posted about sitting around the fire. Sounded like good times. I'm sorry you're losing such a cool guy.

07-30-2014, 12:53 PM	#9923
infinite monkey Person who doesn't update the user title Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 13,002	Thanks. Was just sitting with the neighbors, who were basically his family. Trying to figure out what sort of arrangements, etc. We don't know any of his next of kin. I just went to the funeral of another friend last week, who was a Vietnam veteran. I don't think there's anything more beautiful than the 21 gun salute. We don't know if the VA will help with a service or what. Do any of our cellar servicemen or women know about this sort of thing?

07-30-2014, 02:18 PM	#9925
elSicomoro Person who doesn't update the user title Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 12,486	If he is being buried at a Veterans Cemetery, that's part of the package...at least it was back home when my dad died four years ago. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

07-30-2014, 04:26 PM	#9927
monster I hear them call the tide Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Perpetual Chaos Posts: 30,852	Doesn't look like VA helps much http://www.benefits.va.gov/compensat...ial-burial.asp what about a GoFundMe account or whatever it is? Are the polics looking for next of kin? __________________ The most difficult thing is the decision to act, the rest is merely tenacity Amelia Earhart

07-30-2014, 05:46 PM	#9928
infinite monkey Person who doesn't update the user title Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 13,002	Oh, sorry Sarge. I misspoke. I thought the 3 fires of 7 rifles was what a 21 gun salute was. I hope I didn't offend anyone. Yeah, they're looking for next of kin. I'm about ready to head back down there to see if anyone has found anything out. I'll mention contacting the VFW or Legion, Sarge. Thanks for the support, folks.

07-30-2014, 06:07 PM	#9929
Big Sarge Werepandas - lurking in your shadows Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: In the Deep South Posts: 3,408	the 3 volley fires from anywhere from 3 to 7 soldiers is very significant. it is based on the 3 volley fire to end a truce to collect the dead and wounded. so, the funeral volley symbolizes the veteran is safe and in the care of his comrades sorry for sounding like a smart ass. __________________ Give a man a match, & he'll be warm for 20 seconds. But toss that man a white phosphorus grenade and he'll be warm for the rest of his life.

07-30-2014, 09:47 PM	#9930
infinite monkey Person who doesn't update the user title Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 13,002	No, Sarge, I appreciate the clarification. So there was some estranged family who showed up. They wanted 'things.' LIke he had a lot of 'things.' They don't plan on any funeral of any kind, saying they can't afford it...all the while this estranged sister asking about a life insurance policy he had some time ago (and he probably cashed in.) We plan to have our own memorial amongst us. WTF is wrong with people? I thought about the 'go fund me' thing, monster. I don't know that Stan would have wanted that. WE would like to see a service, but the funeral is for the people left behind. It breaks my heart to think that there won't be that respect shown for a paratrooper in the Vietnam war. Yet, Stan being such a private person, maybe he would have appreciated OUR efforts even more. My dear neighbor lady is elderly, and she took care of Stan and Stan's roommate and another neighbor guy, and they took care of her. She's also become a surrogate mom to me. They're all really good folks. She's hurting, more so about the lack of compassion from his so-called family, I can tell, but you don't make it to 78 years old without knowing pain. I hope I can be stronger too in the years ahead of me. These are the reasons we cherish family, when so many don't know what it feels like. I don't know the backstories, don't care to because it's not my business. I know how people treat me, and others around them. I'm gonna miss that silly funny guy. And we, as some weird sort of community, are going to celebrate that life. Thanks for the venue to talk about this.

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