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Old 05-24-2019, 08:21 AM   #1
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Newport news, va

Im still disoriented from all the travel but i like this place.

More work here than anyplace ive ever been. Contracter friends here


I truly hate my phone.

My phone isnt crazy for me either.

Cock!!!
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Old 05-24-2019, 10:26 AM   #2
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Good morning slang!

Welcome back, to this continent anyhow.
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Old 05-24-2019, 11:36 AM   #3
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Good morning slang!

Welcome back, to this continent anyhow.
What V said!!!
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Old 05-24-2019, 05:32 PM   #4
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Thank you both.

Taking an American phone out of America makes the phone buggy and difficult to use.

The upside is being in Newport News. Seems like a nice place to be.
People here are busy and polite.

Ill be working for a SUPER DUPER big company but know people here to assist with getting back into the groove.

Have a great memorial day weekend!
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Old 05-24-2019, 06:19 PM   #5
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What are you going to be doing?
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Old 05-26-2019, 01:42 PM   #6
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Designing structures and mechanical systems for US navy ships.
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Old 05-26-2019, 04:02 PM   #7
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Old 06-08-2019, 09:25 PM   #8
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After my first week I can say the shipyard is BIG, complex and manufactures the most interesting end products Ive ever worked on.

That seems to be all i can say. Even that may be too much.
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Old 06-08-2019, 11:51 PM   #9
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Hope it pays well.
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Old 06-09-2019, 09:26 AM   #10
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Thanks Bruce, I hope so too. Its a decent base salary. With the anticipared paid overtime, it could be awesome.

Enormous military projects have their own vibe. Once acclimated to the restrictions and security Ill be fine.

The work here will surely hold my full attention and mental capacity for however long this contract.lasts. Could be years.

Who knows?
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Old 06-09-2019, 12:18 PM   #11
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My buddy's doing a huge housing project in that area.
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Old 06-09-2019, 04:29 PM   #12
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I didn't get a chance to explore it either. Long long ago, while on active duty, I attended a week long working conference at Ft. Eustis (now Joint Base Langley-Eustis); but, the additional after conference hours working groups I was in killed any free time. I even had an uncle (retired Air Force, then doing civilian federal forestry land management) who worked on the installation and lived in NN. The only time I got to see him was during a lunch break one day when our schedules coincided. At least being prior service, he knew the deal. The military gets its money's worth.
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Old 09-08-2019, 10:34 PM   #13
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3 months in and Iím getting a clearer picture of how things work.

Working 7 days now but on the weekend there no one there to ask questions so itís often not full days. Work myself into a dead end then leave for the day.

1000 people work in my building but no more than 10-15 work OT.

The greater the challenges we face, the funnier people are at work. Not a great buildup of stress and pressure. No a-holes or bullies anywhere*

Observed lessons , not my firsthand experience...

Corp armed security, polite but firm. Guide newbies into compliance softly, there are a lot of non mil newbies. Do not get cute funny or fresh with security even if they make you very nervous and you try to lighten up the interaction with a joke.

USMC security - as you might expect are a bit more ďdirect actionĒ. If they bark at you stop immediately. Not one more single step. They are authorized to lay hands on you at their discretion. If they freak you out just close you eyes and stand still. STFU until they ask you something. You are not free to leave until they tell you so.

Do not believe that young female marine wonít kick your balls in if given justification.

The pay is pretty dam good with all the OT. Bruce, I have something for you.

The housing development area is a night time free fire zone. Koreans are the most dangerous from what I hear about the area. I donít have time now days for a thrill seeker stroll around that area yet but itís on my bucket list. Letís see if they recognize a vest worn under a shirt. And what that may mean.

If you are working at the shipyard you are making money, if not, you arenít. Itís the best game in town. Maybe the state.

Iíve not experienced an oz of Ill will here. Itís pleasant out where Iím at. This area used to be the jungle. Now itís working low wage. Good folks. I like them. They like me.



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Old 02-20-2020, 01:56 PM   #14
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My Diatribe - NNS

I finished up my contract at Newport news shipbuilding Friday, February 14.

As it turned out the job was not a very good fit with my skill set. My expertise is using the UGNX software to create designs. Most of the contracts that I work 80 or 90% of my energy is spent creating mechanical designs.

Design work at the shipyard entails about 10% of your effort creating designs and about 90% of your effort preparing, planning and scheduling your particular parts. The great majority of oneís time is spent on manufacturing, installation and compliance concerns in a an end product with millions of parts and specific instructions.

The work as experienced from outsiders like me is tedious and requires endless research on softwares that are old and proprietary. There are often no key word search options so that raw data must be sifted through oneís own inexperienced eyes. 100 page long reference documents are not uncommon.

The module of UGNX is a specific version, the shipbuilding module. The very basics of this module and itís functioning are completely different from the standard design, assembly, drafting and manufacturing modules.

We all know what the standard positions and controls are for all cars. The steering wheel, pedals, doors, engine etc. Most people are very good at driving a car in a standard configuration.

Now letís imagine a ďshipyardĒ configured car. One canít even start it because thing are configured differently. Imagine a start process that begins with inserting the ignition key not in the standard ignition but your left ear. And then flipping open the glove box and pushing that little light as if itís a button. ONLY THEN does the car start.

If you are acclimated to the shipyard system and thatís all you have ever known, itís fine. Itís normal. Here at the shipyard anyway.

If you are an outsider you need to ask how to do those things you have been doing on the outside for decades. The workflow has so many steps and variables that one could ďguessĒ how to do something for weeks before discovering ďhow itís done at the shipyardĒ.

The documentation and instructions are long and detailed but updates in software and policies have changed very specific explanation steps and menus into a maze of more confusion. The docs say click ďthisĒ but there is now a menu where ďthisĒ is not shown but there is a drop down with 15 options that you are completely unfamiliar with.

There are approximately 60 steps that you are responsible for in the process from start to finish. Policy could easily change every few weeks making your last project that was successfully released then, completely irrelevant now.

The slightest error requires intervention from someone guiding you over your shoulder and another someone in another building taking over your computer remotely. And a phone call to some other group, all at the same time.

Getting all these people together at one time to assist you is difficult. No one will participate unless the others are at the ready now too.

On top of ALL that, Iím a contractor so I only get the really tough work because Iím so much more expensive than the other ďdesignersĒ.

My exit there was graceful and I did what I could to set the new people taking over my work, the best chance for success. Flowcharts, explanations, where everything could be found and such.

My boss gave me a big hug on the way out and told me I did a great job with the chaos but the direct hires were so much better for the company long term.

They gave me regular opportunities to go direct but thatís just not for me.

So now? Just waiting for my next assignment.

Oh, I did want to say also that the people there at NNS were always patient and helpful. They all are committed to a great working environment of teamwork and optimism. In the offices and the yard, all great and helpful to me and Iím grateful.

The work, on the other hand, is the worst Iíve ever dealt with. Shitty and unabating.
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Old 02-20-2020, 02:27 PM   #15
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Jeebus, you look up "bad fit" in the dictionary of job descriptions, that one has to be right near the top.

I wonder what sequence of events would have to happen to precipitate a baby+bathwater+bathtub+window=solution to happen?

You clearly made the best of a bad situation, that's a valuable skill right there, and broadly transferable irrespective of the "module" in question. Well done!
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