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Mitch McConnell's incessant war with Obama moves into the coal fields...
Move to Fight Obama’s Climate Plan Started Early NY Times - CORAL DAVENPORT and JULIE HIRSCHFELD DAVIS 0 AUG. 3, 2015 Quote:
But here is a less reactionary Opinion article using ACID-RAIN as the model issue... Obama’s Flexible Fix to Climate Change Joe Nocera 8/4/15 Quote:
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Innovation that does not exist even a decade ago means that industry must be bankrupted. Or, in the case of automobile tires, sold to many foreign owners who then undo harm created by business school types who hate and stifle innovation. Why is the American auto industry still alive? Every innovation in a GM car in the past 40 years only exists because it was required by government regulators. |
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Indeed those tendencies are found in all of us to some degree or another, and the article even mentions clear cases when the same person justifies their decision by one of those principles and then the other. I believe that *all* such decisions are made in the spirit of "doing good". I think the outcomes of such contests are really a battle between people who have different ideas about what is good, or about which good is more important. I often want to do good, have a chance to take an action, and I have to choose which good I want to do. It's a matter of prioritization, in my head. And it's just the same in each of the heads of the justices, but they then have to work together to come to a joint decision as a court. Think of all the individual choices and voices we see and hear from them. I think people try to do good all the time. Even when rule following is used as a justification, I think it's really saying that the good done by this decision includes preservation of the system of rules we have in place, and coincidentally, it complements the good outcome I've chosen. Double good outcomes when it also can be justified by the rules. "*Bonus*, see, the rules are supported!" Our disagreements are more about what constitutes good, or which good is better, and the rules are just another justification for our decisions. Someone who says they're doing it just because the rules say so reminds me of Sergeant Schultz, "I vas *chust* following orDERS!"
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08-05-2015, 11:48 AM | #5 | |
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Mostly - I'd say I am a do-gooder - inasmuch as I am a bleeding heart liberal. And in some ways, I am a rulebreaker.
On the other hand I am very rulesy in some matters. If a sign says do not walk on the grass, I won't walk on the grass. Doesn't matter if there are no people or cameras to see.
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08-05-2015, 11:56 AM | #6 |
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When walking on the path and not the grass, don't you think you're doing good, too? Respecting the rules is the good I see there, plus the preservation of the grass, eh?
Maybe I'm just really good at justification and rationalization.
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No - I just feel really uncomfortable being somewhere I am not supposed to be. That goes for doors I'm not supposed to open, parking spaces or access roads the car shouldn't be in (when i am a passenger - I don't drive) and so on.
The one exception to this is standing outside stations for a cigarette - I will take my chances on not getting shooed away rather than walk all the way to the smoking shelter and risk missing my bus/train - and if lots of people are ignoring the signs because that changes the social rules. If there's a sign telling me not to go on the grass, and there are loads of people casually strolling around on the grass, then I go with the apparent social ruling, rather than the sign. It's all about not wanting to be somewhere I am not welcome, I think.
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[whine] Thinking is hard. I might make a mistake. So everyone should do X because, my church, my political party, my peers, or my spouse, said that was the right thing. That way I don't want to have to think about it. [/whine]
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I was thinking *exactly that*. I'd add "trusted media voice" to that list (and I find that trust is often given for a range of reasons, but charisma, physical appearance, and loudness/repetition are high on that list, sadly, above reason. Because reason is hard.)
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Oh, good point! FOX News said, I heard on talk radio...
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Yehbut, it's kind of helpful that people do that - 'cause as soon as they say 'Fox News said' - then you know you can tune them out and stop listening :p
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I don't trust Fox News. They have been infiltrated by the the leftist. I rely on Alex Jones for the truth!
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Brett and Leon may find that the 2700 to Hillary lost a bit of value when this was published.
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